The Ancient Greeks - How they looked like?

[Prince Carlo]

What do you know about indo-europeans, E1b1b neolitich farmer ;D
So they were proto Europids or what?

I don't care about original indo-europeans. Dorians were not an original indo-european population anyway.

[Defiance]

@ Pyrimidologist
Douchebag.

A simple assessment regarding Greek phenotypes based on morphological traits of Ancient Greek busts is hardly a "meaningless misinformed opinion."

Please drop the Nordicist nonsense and join us in reality.

[Pyramidologist]

@ Pyrimidologist
Douchebag.

A simple assessment regarding Greek phenotypes based on morphological traits of Ancient Greek busts is hardly a "meaningless misinformed opinion."

Please drop the Nordicist nonsense and join us in reality.

Peer-reviewed assessment is here:

http://www.geocities.ws/race_articles/greekface.html

Even if you deny the morphological differences in regards to the classes, you cannot deny that the higher classes (aristoi) were predominantly blonde. Just look at the ancient literature.

Why for example are 90% of the ancient Greek Gods blonde?

And the only populations claiming descent from these blonde figures were the nobility, aristocrats etc, who were of Indo-European extraction.

[Artek]

Peer-reviewed assessment is here:

http://www.geocities.ws/race_articles/greekface.html

Even if you deny the morphological differences in regards to the classes, you cannot deny that the higher classes (aristoi) were predominantly blonde. Just look at the ancient literature.

Why for example are 90% of the ancient Greek Gods blonde?

And the only populations claiming descent from these blonde figures were the nobility, aristocrats etc, who were of Indo-European extraction.

Nobility always wanted to remain different from masses of their subjects, both in terms of look and ethnogenesis. For example, polish szlachta claimed that they were descended from ancient Sarmatians who conquered lands of present Poland. Lower classes were said to be autochtonous or imported from various lands.
In Greece, where majority of people were dark haired, nobility wanted to be different too. I don't deny that nobility could have been slightly lighter but I don't believe that light hair was predominant between them.

[Libertas]

Peer-reviewed assessment is here:

http://www.geocities.ws/race_articles/greekface.html

Even if you deny the morphological differences in regards to the classes, you cannot deny that the higher classes (aristoi) were predominantly blonde. Just look at the ancient literature.

Why for example are 90% of the ancient Greek Gods blonde?

And the only populations claiming descent from these blonde figures were the nobility, aristocrats etc, who were of Indo-European extraction.

I suggest you read Dienekes Pontikos' articles on the mainly brunette nature of ancient Greeks.

[Pyramidologist]

I suggest you read Dienekes Pontikos' articles on the mainly brunette nature of ancient Greeks.

Majority 93% were dark haired. 7% were blonde of Indo-European (Aryan) extraction, reflecting the small elite or nobility (see Day, 2001). There was thus a different racial type in regards to the classes.

Dienekes is a Medicentric turd, his article is poorly written and it is filled with lies. I plan to go through it some time to expose them, but Arthur Kemp did quite a good job. Dienekes for example claims Hercules is described as swarthy and hook nosed, but deliberately missed out the fact he is described as blue eyed and blonde haired. He does the same with basically all other figures. He will selectively quote and leave out anything that doesn't support his Medicentricism. Another Medicentric turd is RR (Racial Reality).

[Libertas]

Majority 93% were dark haired. 7% were blonde of Indo-European (Aryan) extraction, reflecting the small elite or nobility (see Day, 2001). There was thus a different racial type in regards to the classes.

Dienekes is a Medicentric turd, his article is poorly written and it is filled with lies. I plan to go through it some time to expose them, but Arthur Kemp did quite a good job. Dienekes for example claims Hercules is described as swarthy and hook nosed, but deliberately missed out the fact he is described as blue eyed and blonde haired. He does the same with basically all other figures. He will selectively quote and leave out anything that doesn't support his Medicentricism. Another Medicentric turd is RR (Racial Reality).

Sure, sure.
We've seen your evidence.
Day is on a par with that Nordicist Kemp.

[Pyramidologist]

Sure, sure.
We've seen your evidence.
Day is on a par with that Nordicist Kemp.

Unlike Dienekes, i am qualified to discuss classical sources. There is gross distortion and outright lies on his page. I showed this page to a Professor of Classics at my University a while back, and it gave them a chuckle. Do you really think academics take this article seriously? It's a propaganda piece written by a charlatan, even Kemp (who only holds a B.A.) has better credentials than Diekenes the ''bedroom'' scientist.

Dienekes for example writes:

There are numerous references to brunets in ancient mythology and literature, e.g., the Muses, Poseidon, Alcmena, Theseus, Zeus, Dionysos and Odysseus are described as possessing either dark hair or dark eyes.

Truth is that only Poseidon is described as dark haired in all sources but he is a pre-Indo-European God (Gimbutas, 1974). Odysseus is described as light eyed and blonde, neither dark haired nor dark eyed. So an outright lie from Dienekes. Yes, Dionysus is described as dark haired, but Dienekes fails to mention in a contradictory source he is described as blonde (Hes. Theog. 947). Furthermore while Theseus is described as dark eyed, he is described as having golden hair, again Diekenes doesn't note this. Another lie is that Zeus is described as either dark haired or dark eyed, neither is true. He is described as ''bright eyed'' throughout the Odyssey.

As i said i could go through the entire article, exposing far more distortion.

[Artek]

Such specialist wasting his time in a forum full of retards and ignorants...
Don't know what are you doing here,bro.
You need have a conversations with people on your level, some Nordologists or related scientist.

[Thunor]

It makes sense that some of the ancient Greeks were blond Indo-European tribesmen who originally invaded from the north. On the other hand, there was no genocide or population replacement (otherwise we'd know about it), so there must have been a large population living there already.

You need have a conversations with people on your level, some Nordologists or related scientist.

He seems to be a scientific professional who spends his time writing wikipedia articles.