The Ancient Greeks - How they looked like?

[loulou]

Ancient Greeks were probably darker than today and more similar to each others. The light complexion comes mostly from the barbarian's invasion, beginning in the Ist century.

Why do you think greek will not like this thread ?

[hajduk]

I can catch IM's imagination of how Ancient Greeks looked like.Probably he thinks the closest one would be the Gypsies like him for example

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[hajduk]

I'm Bulgarian so this is kind of a self-irony

Wake up dude

[kollaps]

However, Greece does seem to follow the trend of ancient civilizations that darkened in color, and sunk in importance. Lots of people have invaded and settled that country. Obviously, it's a mixed bag, and not nearly as racially destroyed as Persia and India.

In all respect, this is a bullsh*t 3rd Reich theory and isn't proven by any historical fact. Even in modern times, the US didn't dominate the world when it was inhabited by pure white Anglogermans, but it does dominate in the last 100 years with all kinds of immigrants settled there. Not that I am a fan of US imperialism, I am just stating facts. And there have been many great civilizations by non-white people throughout history. Even the Arabs were far more culturally advanced than Europe in the medieval times (sorry my spanish friends).

And, on topic, there have been numerous scientific studies that prove that Greeks aren't that different than their ancient counterparts.

[Pyramidologist]

And, on topic, there have been numerous scientific studies that prove that Greeks aren't that different than their ancient counterparts.

As shown in craniometric studies.

''Long before Hellenic civilization had developed the inhabitants of the Greek world appear.... similar generally the inhabitants of that area today.''
- The Inhabitants of the Eastern Mediterranean, L. H. Dudley Buxton, Biometrika, Vol. 13, No. 1, Oct., 1920, p. 111

Angel (1945) also came to similar conclusions that the Neolithic inhabitants of Greece were ''largely ancestral to modern Greeks''.

The only racial element that has faded in Greece was blondism or fairer Nordic traits, introduced by the Indo-Europeans who were numerically only a very small population and so who were eventually absorbed.

[Sikeliot]

I would bet that today's Greeks if anything are lighter than the ancients due to more Slavic admixture and other Balkan influences. The purest Greeks are probably the islanders, like people from Rhodes, Chios, and whatnot.

[kollaps]

The purest Greeks are probably the islanders, like people from Rhodes, Chios, and whatnot.

Islanders may have had significant influences, due to constant re-conquering and looting, by Arabs, Franks, Venetians, Turks, Italians and so on. The only catholics in Greece actually exist in islands like Syros and Tinos, although I don't know if they were just catholicised Greeks or Franks who settled there.

In Peloponnese, it depends on the place. There have been major Arvanites settlements on the north during Turkish occupation. On the south there have been some minor Slavic settlements, but so back in time (early Byzantine era) that the influence by now should be tiny. Some Slavic village names live on (for example near my grandparent's village in Taygetos) but to say that this means something significant anthropologically (as German historians and the Nazis did) is simply moronic. All in all, the Peloponnese was the center of revolutionary Greece and that should say something.

Theoretically, the purest Greeks may have been those who lived on Asia Minor (Smyrni, etc) as they were considered descendants of the Greeks who settled there thousands of years ago, and due to the fact that those who became Muslims and mixed with Turks formed a separate community.

[Rhobot]

Islanders may have had significant influences, due to constant re-conquering and looting, by Arabs, Franks, Venetians, Turks, Italians and so on. The only catholics in Greece actually exist in islands like Syros and Tinos, although I don't know if they were just catholicised Greeks or Franks who settled there.

In Peloponnese, it depends on the place. There have been major Arvanites settlements on the north during Turkish occupation. On the south there have been some minor Slavic settlements, but so back in time (early Byzantine era) that the influence by now should be tiny. Some Slavic village names live on (for example near my grandparent's village in Taygetos) but to say that this means something significant anthropologically (as German historians and the Nazis did) is simply moronic. All in all, the Peloponnese was the center of revolutionary Greece and that should say something.

Theoretically, the purest Greeks may have been those who lived on Asia Minor (Smyrni, etc) as they were considered descendants of the Greeks who settled there thousands of years ago, and due to the fact that those who became Muslims and mixed with Turks formed a separate community.

How about the Griko people around the Straits of Messina?

[Contra Mundum]

...Beth Cohen, author of Not the Classical Ideal:Athens and the Construction of the Other in Greek Art (2000), asserts that the Thracians, distant cousins of the Greeks, had “the same dark hair and the same facial features as the Ancient Greeks.”

Typical kike bullshit.

[Contra Mundum]

I would bet that today's Greeks if anything are lighter than the ancients due to more Slavic admixture and other Balkan influences. The purest Greeks are probably the islanders, like people from Rhodes, Chios, and whatnot.

What about Greece under Ottoman occupation? There had to be some mixing going on during that time.

They were probably darker on the islands. Ancient Greece was probably a mix of various caucasian groups. Some olive skin, others lighter in tone. Didn't the ancestors of the Dorians come from the north? People from the north who were tall with light hair and eyes were better warriors. I suspect the Spartans were descended from them, while the olive skinned people were more cultured. I think that mix is what made ancient Greece so great.