View Poll Results: Are Spaniards closer to Moroccans than to Swedes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementina View Post
    Moroccans are mostly E1b1b. Not J.
    You mean, unmixed Berbers, don't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementina View Post
    Moroccans are mostly E1b1b. Not J.
    I would like that you posted some links from time to time to the research pieces you handle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Arnau View Post
    You mean, unmixed Berbers, don't you?
    In general. Moroccans are the least Arab people of all North Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementina View Post
    Moroccans are mostly E1b1b. Not J.
    That means they are closer to Albanians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibericus View Post
    Genetically Balkans are closer to Moroccans than Spaniards, because of the Southwest-Asian affinity. Here you have distances from the DodecadOracle for the K=12 v3 admixture run :

    Balkans vs Moroccans : 45.75
    Spain vs Moroccans : 48.25
    Do you have Portuguese vs Spaniards???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementina View Post
    In general. Moroccans are the least Arab people of all North Africa.
    Have you got any stats on the presence of J in Moroccans as a whole?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catrau View Post
    Do you have Portuguese vs Spaniards???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Arnau View Post
    Have you got any stats on the presence of J in Moroccans as a whole?
    Here you have, at the bottom :

    http://www.eupedia.com/europe/europe...logroups.shtml

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementina View Post
    In general. Moroccans are the least Arab people of all North Africa.
    lol I like your blunt statements. They nice

    Egypt has experienced several invasions during its history. However, these do not seem to account for more than about 10% overall of current Egyptians ancestry when the DNA evidence of the ancient mitochondrial DNA and modern Y chromosomes is considered. While Afrocentrists such as Ivan van Sertima argue that the Egyptians were primarily Africoid before the many conquests of Egypt diluted the Africanity of the Egyptian people, other scholars such as Frank Yurco believe that Modern Egyptians are largely representative of the ancient population, and the DNA evidence appears to support this view.

    Results of genetic studies is consistent with the historical record, which records significant bidirectional contact between Egypt and Nubia, and the Levant/Near East within the last few thousand years, but with general population continuity from the Early Dynastic period up to the modern day era.


    http://genapps.uchicago.edu/labweb/pubs/krings.pdf

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...3.00057.x/full

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibericus View Post
    Cool, thanks.

    I was simply joking before, but I really thought the numbers of J for Moroccans would be somewhere between 15% and 20%. Interesting.
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    In general. Moroccans are the least Arab people of all North Africa.
    This still stands true IMO. Even if Egyptians are not of significant recent Arabian ancestry, Moroccans are still very likely the least Arabian influenced in North Africa. The y-dna frequencies show this. Also, since most (if not all) Arab conquerors would have been male, seeing very little J1 in Moroccans means very limited Arabian ancestry.

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