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    Quote Originally Posted by Korbis View Post
    I know its a joke thread, just saying.
    Not to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Svartálfar View Post
    Tell me the truth, son. You have not seen many moroccans so far.
    I have seen them everyday and they look like they could fit well in Europe, especially Spain. To portray Moroccans as Arab or Negroid looking tend to have no lack of experience. Best question for you: Have you ever been to Morocco?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fresa Salvaje View Post
    Not really, I am Andalusian, from Granada, the place where the Moors stayed longer. And i am genetically closer to any European, including Swedes, than Moroccans. Even Andalusians as a group, I would post it later.

    If you can't tell an Andalusian from a Moor, pls travel or ask Osweo. He's been here.

    [1,] "Extremadura_1KG" "2.0952"
    [2,] "Portuguese_D" "3.6401"
    [3,] "Murcia_1KG" "3.7895"
    [4,] "Castilla_Y_Leon_1KG" "3.9522"
    [5,] "Galicia_1KG" "3.9987"
    [6,] "Spanish_D" "4.8836"
    [7,] "Baleares_1KG" "5.0299"
    [8,] "Spaniards" "5.6445"
    [9,] "Andalucia_1KG" "5.7367"
    [10,] "Castilla_La_Mancha_1KG" "6.3435"
    [11,] "Cataluna_1KG" "6.4823"
    [12,] "Valencia_1KG" "7.7078"
    [13,] "Cantabria_1KG" "7.7266"
    [14,] "Aragon_1KG" "8.2444"
    [15,] "Canarias_1KG" "8.6487"
    [16,] "North_Italian" "14.5777"
    [17,] "N_Italian_D" "15.5348"
    [18,] "French" "17.2026"
    [19,] "French_D" "17.6165"
    [20,] "TSI30" "21.6241"
    [21,] "Pais_Vasco_1KG" "22.4036"
    [22,] "Tuscan" "23.8372"
    [23,] "O_Italian_D" "24.2584"
    [24,] "Cornwall_1KG" "25.2171"
    [25,] "Kent_1KG" "25.9863"
    [26,] "British_D" "26.1423"
    [27,] "C_Italian_D" "26.6576"
    [28,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "26.6998"
    [29,] "English_D" "26.7851"
    [30,] "CEU30" "26.9492"
    [31,] "British_Isles_D" "27.7863"
    [32,] "French_Basque" "27.8672"
    [33,] "Dutch_D" "27.9407"
    [34,] "Irish_D" "28.1263"
    [35,] "Argyll_1KG" "28.6545"
    [36,] "Orcadian" "28.7064"
    [37,] "Orkney_1KG" "29.5022"
    [38,] "German_D" "32.035"
    [39,] "Sardinian" "33.1094"
    [40,] "Sicilian_D" "34.2717"
    [41,] "Romanians" "34.402"
    [42,] "S_Italian_Sicilian_D" "34.5001"
    [43,] "Greek_D" "35.0291"
    [44,] "Bulgarians_Y" "35.1208"
    [45,] "Bulgarian_D" "35.3403"
    [46,] "Hungarians" "36.0891"
    [47,] "Norwegian_D" "38.194"

    ........................

    [52,] "Swedish_D" "40.7882"

    [67,] "Moroccans" "56.0791"
    Surely, there must be overlap between Spaniards and Moroccans. I mean, they are known for their swarthy Med phenotype.

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    Oh well. A lot of "white" Moroccans are actually descended from the Moriscos expelled from Spain in the 17th century, so at the end of the day they look similar because they are -more or less- the same. Some of them could be berbers from the Rift too, unmixed with subsaharian negroes or arabs.

    I´ve been told that there is an old documentary about morisco descendants living in North Africa, it even featured a redhead woman (!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordid View Post
    Surely, there must be overlap between Spaniards and Moroccans.
    My results shows that I am closer to Swedes.

    The groupal results show the same, and closer to Swedes, and the maps shows no overlap, rather quite a long distance, in accordance with the similarity results:

    Similarity of Andalusians with different populations:

    [1,] "Andalucia_1KG" "0"
    [2,] "Murcia_1KG" "4.5332"
    [3,] "Castilla_Y_Leon_1KG" "5.7576"
    [4,] "Castilla_La_Mancha_1KG" "5.7767"
    [5,] "Spaniards" "5.8352"
    [6,] "Baleares_1KG" "6.1668"
    [7,] "Valencia_1KG" "6.2642"
    [8,] "Spanish_D" "6.3277"
    [9,] "Extremadura_1KG" "6.5253"
    [10,] "Aragon_1KG" "6.8644"
    [11,] "Cantabria_1KG" "7.516"
    [12,] "Galicia_1KG" "7.7253"
    [13,] "Portuguese_D" "8.1584"
    [14,] "Cataluna_1KG" "8.5024"
    [15,] "Canarias_1KG" "9.6566"
    [16,] "North_Italian" "14.9345"
    [17,] "N_Italian_D" "16.8962"
    [18,] "Pais_Vasco_1KG" "20.8583"
    [19,] "French" "21.2485"
    [20,] "French_D" "21.8154"
    [21,] "TSI30" "21.9488"
    [22,] "Tuscan" "23.9758"
    [23,] "French_Basque" "25.1223"
    [24,] "O_Italian_D" "25.699"
    [25,] "C_Italian_D" "27.0333"
    [26,] "Sardinian" "27.8808"
    [27,] "Cornwall_1KG" "29.3375"
    [28,] "Kent_1KG" "30.2156"
    [29,] "British_D" "30.3201"
    [30,] "English_D" "31.0459"
    [31,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "31.1"
    [32,] "CEU30" "31.1998"
    [33,] "British_Isles_D" "31.9417"
    [34,] "Dutch_D" "32.3207"
    [35,] "Irish_D" "32.3589"
    [36,] "Orcadian" "32.9613"
    [37,] "Argyll_1KG" "33.0098"
    [38,] "Orkney_1KG" "33.7907"
    [39,] "Sicilian_D" "34.499"
    [40,] "S_Italian_Sicilian_D" "34.7628"
    [41,] "Greek_D" "35.9646"
    [42,] "German_D" "36.4487"
    [43,] "Romanians" "37.3956"
    [44,] "Bulgarians_Y" "37.7388"
    [45,] "Bulgarian_D" "38.1763"
    ...............

    [52,] "Swedish_D" "45.3377"
    .................
    [65,] "Moroccans" "57.7953"

    I mean, they are known for their swarthy Med phenotype.
    Well, that's totally irrelevant to what they really are, or their genetical composition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korbis View Post
    Oh well. A lot of "white" Moroccans are actually descended from the Moriscos expelled from Spain in the 17th century, so at the end of the day they look similar because they are -more or less- the same. Some of them could be berbers from the Rift too, unmixed with subsaharian negroes or arabs.

    I´ve been told that there was an old documentary about morisco descendants living in North Africa, there even was a redhead woman (!).
    Cheers mate, just exactly what I need for an answer. Isn't that obviously that Spaniards closer to Moroccans since they don't live far away from each other and they must have in common with each other, particularly mentality, historical, phenotype and culture? Compare Spaniards to Moroccans is like Poles to Slovaks..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fresa Salvaje View Post
    My results shows that I am closer to Swedes.
    Well, that's totally irrelevant to what they really are, or their genetical composition.
    When it's come to genetic, the things are different. Black person with results shows that they are closer to Europe than to Africa. Does that they mean they are actual closer to Europe? No!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordid View Post
    I have seen them everyday and they look like they could fit well in Europe, especially Spain. To portray Moroccans as Arab or Negroid looking tend to have no lack of experience. Best question for you: Have you ever been to Morocco?
    No, but I know a lot of moroccans and I know well how they look.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mordid View Post
    Surely, there must be overlap between Spaniards and Moroccans. I mean, they are known for their swarthy Med phenotype.
    Moroccans are not meds, they are berbers mixed with negroids and meds.

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    No, but I know a lot of moroccans and I know well how they look.
    Well, if that's the case, I know a lot of aliens and I know well how they look. They are not exactly green as what people imagined.
    Moroccans are not meds, they are berbers mixed with negroids and meds.
    Based on internet, yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordid View Post
    Cheers mate, just exactly what I need for an answer. Isn't that obviously that Spaniards closer to Moroccans since they don't live far away from each other and they must have in common with each other, particularly mentality, historical, phenotype and culture? Compare Spaniards to Moroccans is like Poles to Slovaks..

    The cultural links are noticeable in Andalusia, but very weak if even existing in the rest of the peninsula (as I can tell by my mother´s family, who are catalans).

    Spaniards might react badly to this kind of comment because most of the moroccan inmigrants they get are burglars, rapists and useless scum unwilling to blend or act civilized. So yes, little in common with the locals. Those who enjoy a decent standard of living in Morocco and are less miscegenated are another story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordid View Post
    When it's come to genetic, the things are different. Black person with results shows that they are closer to Europe than to Africa. Does that they mean they are actual closer to Europe? No!
    Do you mean a half Black /half European person?
    Genetically, he will be far and out of the European cluster, and phenotipically he will look alien, most likely. It's obvious. Anyway, you are trolling, and I am feeding you. I let others do it instead.

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