Germanic Hungaryan friendship.

[Rollo]

how about non-european as a category for hungarian !? or khanty-mansi !?

That's foolish. Basque isn't indo-European, but the language predates ALL modern languages in the area. As a matter of fact, Hungarian actually predates modern European languages too, making it more European in any case

[Magyar the Conqueror]

[Geronimo]

That's foolish. Basque isn't indo-European, but the language predates ALL modern languages in the area. As a matter of fact, Hungarian actually predates modern European languages too, making it more European in any case

Basque is pre-indo-european, no question about that, hungarian is not. The comparison with hungarian is laughable, lame and foolish

Hate to break it to you but : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_language


Hungarian is a Uralic language, part of the Ugric group, spoken by the Hungarians. It is the most widely spoken non-Indo-European language in Europe, according to the number of native speakers.

Hungarian is a Uralic language, more specifically an Ugric language; the most closely related languages are Mansi and Khanty of western Siberia (see Khanty–Mansia). Connections between the Ugric and many other languages were noticed in the 1670s and established, along with the entire Uralic family, in 1717, although the classification of Hungarian continued to be a matter of political controversy into the 18th and even 19th centuries. The name of Hungary could be a result of regular sound changes of Ungrian/Ugrian, and the fact that the Eastern Slavs referred to Hungarians as Ǫgry/Ǫgrove (sg. Ǫgrinŭ) seemed to confirm that.[2] As to the source of this ethnonym in the Slavic languages, current literature favors the hypothesis that it comes from the name of the Turkic tribe Onogur (which means "ten arrows" or "ten tribes").[3][4][5]
There are numerous regular sound correspondences between Hungarian and the other Ugric languages. For example, Hungarian /aː/ corresponds to Khanty /o/ in certain positions, and Hungarian /h/ corresponds to Khanty /x/, while Hungarian final /z/ corresponds to Khanty final /t/. For example, Hungarian ház [haːz] "house" vs. Khanty xot [xot] "house", and Hungarian száz [saːz] "hundred" vs. Khanty sot [sot] "hundred".
The distance between the Ugric and Finnic languages is greater, but the correspondences are also regular.

and you might wanna ckeck this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular...alic_languages

[Rollo]

Basque is pre-indo-european, no question about that, hungarian is not. The comparison with hungarian is laughable, lame and foolish

Hate to break it to you but : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_language


Hungarian is a Uralic language, part of the Ugric group, spoken by the Hungarians. It is the most widely spoken non-Indo-European language in Europe, according to the number of native speakers.

Hungarian is a Uralic language, more specifically an Ugric language; the most closely related languages are Mansi and Khanty of western Siberia (see Khanty–Mansia). Connections between the Ugric and many other languages were noticed in the 1670s and established, along with the entire Uralic family, in 1717, although the classification of Hungarian continued to be a matter of political controversy into the 18th and even 19th centuries. The name of Hungary could be a result of regular sound changes of Ungrian/Ugrian, and the fact that the Eastern Slavs referred to Hungarians as Ǫgry/Ǫgrove (sg. Ǫgrinŭ) seemed to confirm that.[2] As to the source of this ethnonym in the Slavic languages, current literature favors the hypothesis that it comes from the name of the Turkic tribe Onogur (which means "ten arrows" or "ten tribes").[3][4][5]
There are numerous regular sound correspondences between Hungarian and the other Ugric languages. For example, Hungarian /aː/ corresponds to Khanty /o/ in certain positions, and Hungarian /h/ corresponds to Khanty /x/, while Hungarian final /z/ corresponds to Khanty final /t/. For example, Hungarian ház [haːz] "house" vs. Khanty xot [xot] "house", and Hungarian száz [saːz] "hundred" vs. Khanty sot [sot] "hundred".
The distance between the Ugric and Finnic languages is greater, but the correspondences are also regular.

and you might wanna ckeck this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular...alic_languages

I love how you just quote wikipedia. The amount of similarities is negligible.

Magyars do come from the same region that the Finns did, true, but the languages are not the same. The similar words you pointed out would be loan words from when Finns and Magyars were geographically closer together.

Hungarian actually has a few of strange similarities with Ancient Egyptian, and an alphabet that predates the Roman alphabet.

http://www.chicagohungarians.com/radics/Origin1.htm

Perhaps you won't find it so "laughable, lame and foolish" now,

[Magyar the Conqueror]

Ancient Hungarian runes

[Magyar the Conqueror]

Genetical distance from Poles, the smaller the number the closer to Poles.

[Geronimo]

I love how you just quote wikipedia. The amount of similarities is negligible.

Magyars do come from the same region that the Finns did, true, but the languages are not the same. The similar words you pointed out would be loan words from when Finns and Magyars were geographically closer together.

Hungarian actually has a few of strange similarities with Ancient Egyptian, and an alphabet that predates the Roman alphabet.

http://www.chicagohungarians.com/radics/Origin1.htm

Perhaps you won't find it so "lame, laughable and foolish" now,

Yeees Adam and Eve were hungarians Give us a break with these SF theories. By the way do you know about the hungarian-hebrew connection, Jesus and all that !? thats one of the 100 hypothesis regarding hungarian origin. That one was proposed by tel-aviv hungarians not chicago ones

and by the way I was not the one that pointed out the similarities, qualified linguists did that

[Magyar the Conqueror]

Apparent this is the genetic makeup of Hungarians, not sure how trustworthy this is, probably not very.

[Geronimo]

Apparent this is the genetic makeup of Hungarians, not sure how trustworthy this is, probably not very.

What does Y-dna has to do with the affiliation of your language !?

R1A is associatd with slavs and germanics (peaks in poles)
R1B is associated with italo-cetls and germanics (peaks in brits, basques and catalans)

What this genetic research proves is that modern hungarians are assimilated slavs and germans, it tells nothing about hungarian origin or hungarian language.

I dont know what I1b is, maybe you can help me with that.

[Magyar the Conqueror]

Oh, I thought the aim of this thread was to post random crap thats related to Poles, Germans or Hungarians?