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    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
    Man United fans are hated around the world, etc, etc, etc....

    But, the Man United fans or 'etc, etc, etc,' haven't had multiple expulsions from multiple nations,etc, etc, etc....

    What is it that Jews do that gets people so wound up?
    For one thing Europe hasn't always been a bastion of enlightenment and rational thinking. "Witches" were killed en mass throughout European history.

    Also who blamed who for the death of their god incarnate on earth for multiple centuries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by European Loyalist View Post
    For one thing Europe hasn't always been a bastion of enlightenment and rational thinking. "Witches" were killed en mass throughout European history.
    They weren't. That is a myth. Yes, a few women were removed, either from having land and wealth envied by others, or from being openly anti-establishment, but the genocide of Witches often portrayed is ridiculous.

    Also who blamed who for the death of their god incarnate on earth for multiple centuries?
    Christians. But I don't think King Edward was expelling the Jews for the crime of deicide, but because the Jews had a monetary noose over his neck. The same can be said, here and there, across Europe and the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
    They weren't. That is a myth. Yes, a few women were removed, either from having land and wealth envied by others, or from being openly anti-establishment, but the genocide of Witches often portrayed is ridiculous.
    How much is "a few"? I have seen estimates from 10,000 to 40,000 killed in reliable sources. Do you have a reliable source which says otherwise?



    Christians. But I don't think King Edward was expelling the Jews for the crime of deicide, but because the Jews had a monetary noose over his neck. The same can be said, here and there, across Europe and the world.
    The issue over their practice of usury was a religious issue. Christian theologians believed it be against the will of God to allow the practice of usury and it was thus angering him (God).

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    Quote Originally Posted by European Loyalist View Post
    For one thing Europe hasn't always been a bastion of enlightenment and rational thinking. "Witches" were killed en mass throughout European history.

    Also who blamed who for the death of their god incarnate on earth for multiple centuries?


    That comes directly from the Bible:

    1 Thes 2:15 who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile to all men NIV

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    Quote Originally Posted by European Loyalist View Post
    Could you empirically prove that it was at the intention of Jews that this occurred? Because I don't think you can. Most likely your conspiratorial argument is entirely based around vague observations of overrepresentation, just like they all are.
    I didnt say it was intentional. It was obviously a huge mistake. Although many of the people behind the lead ups to the collapse were Jews. The people who saw it coming and tried to bring a stop to it were also Jews. Remember Alan Greenspan?

    I am not a conspiracy nut, I am just presenting one source of resentment. I have personally noticed a rise in antisemitism since 2008. And even then, I myself do not resent all Jews, many of them were screwed by the economic collapse as well. Rich Zionists I do not like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AcadianDriftwood View Post
    I didnt say it was intentional. It was obviously a huge mistake. Although many of the people behind the lead ups to the collapse were Jews. The people who saw it coming and tried to bring a stop to it were also Jews. Remember Alan Greenspan?

    I am not a conspiracy nut, I am just presenting one source of resentment. I have personally noticed a rise in antisemitism since 2008. And even then, I myself do not resent all Jews, many of them were screwed by the economic collapse as well. Rich Zionists I do not like.
    OK, so you were coming at it from a popular perspective, not necessarily your own. Because one thing those who accuse Jews for such problems often fail to comprehend is that racial overrepresentation does not indicate on it's own anything.

    I would make the argument that the financial "great recession" as it's called was more based on a number of structural and systematic factor, ranging from govn't policy to a competitive corporate culture based inherently in human nature.

    And even looking at the structural factors it was Adam Smith for instance, a Christian Scot, who is the father of economic liberalism - which espouses the view of light regulation and the power of the unleashed economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by European Loyalist View Post
    OK, so you were coming at it from a popular perspective, not necessarily your own.
    No. These signs have been seen at Occupy protests, including in Moncton.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AcadianDriftwood View Post
    No. These signs have been seen at Occupy protests, including in Moncton.

    Thats a problem of democracy and capitalism. It has nothing to do with Jews. Once the almighty $ became more important than culture, its simply a downward spiral of death, and someone will take the reins as is expected. It just happened to be them (aided by the history of the church, as has been mentioned).

    We probably need to go back to some sort of aristocracy after this death-culture takes its course, so we have capable people to lead the herd. Someone to protect us, and not devour us from within (as is happening now, and as happened in the R.E.).

    Also, it sounds ridiculous for the 1% to be Jewish. If anything, WASPS are the super majority of the 1%, elite Jews hold their power in other things which are obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anachronistic View Post
    And LOL @ Atatürk being Islamic.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemalist_ideology

    Kemalist secularism does not imply or advocate agnosticism or nihilism; it means freedom of thought and independence of the institutions of the state from the dominance of religious thought and religious institutions. In neutralizing political Islam as a force Kemalism aimed at developing a pluralistic (liberal) Islam on the social front. The Kemalist principle of secularism is not against an enlightened Islam, but against an Islam opposed to and fighting modernization and democracy. The social narrative of Kemalist secularism continues into the 21st century, with a Turkish Islam rooted in Sufism, particularly Naqshbandi Sufi orders, and punctuated by frontier conditions of Turkey.

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