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    Is Christian correct to believe in destiny? Does fate exist according to Christian teachings? Sometimes in my life I tried hard and persistently to do or change some things, but I always failed so I start to think that all are already predetermined and out control. What's your attitude about it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Flintlocke View Post

    You having doubts there boy?
    Predestination is a pretty highly debated concept within Christianity, it's the reason there are so many different views on it.

    I would say that for free will to work the only thing that God can predetermine is your salvation. This is a common protestant view on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flintlocke View Post

    You having doubts there boy?
    That is slogan of chetnik movement.

    Quote Originally Posted by European Loyalist View Post
    Predestination is a pretty highly debated concept within Christianity, it's the reason there are so many different views on it.

    I would say that for free will to work the only thing that God can predetermine is your salvation. This is a common protestant view on it.
    In Christianity, term salvation is more often related to otherworldly and spiritual side of life. When I said predestined I mean things that we experience through this earthy material life. Sometimes I think that some things must happened and that these things were simply inevitable and that it's part of destiny. So there is question about relations between Christianity and Determinism.

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    I believe there is a scripture in the book of Jeremiah that mentions all things have been preordained.
    "A man must accept his fate or be destroyed by it." ~Spartacus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremija View Post
    In Christianity, term salvation is more often related to otherworldly and spiritual side of life. When I said predestined I mean things that we experience through this earthy material life. Sometimes I think that some things must happened and that these things were simply inevitable and that it's part of destiny. So there is question about relations between Christianity and Determinism.
    I understand that. The argument is that nothing in our material/physical lives are predestined because the only thing that God can predestine without interfering with free will is salvation.

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    I believe everything has been preordained, but that does not mean you do not have choices, it just means that God already knows what they are.
    Either you think, or else others have to think for you, and take power from you, pervert and discipline your natural tastes, civilize and sterilize you. - F. Scott Fitzgerald

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    Catholicism and many other Christian rites (with a notable exception of Calvinism) reject predestination as a violation of the free will paradigm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuck View Post
    I believe there is a scripture in the book of Jeremiah that mentions all things have been preordained.
    So we are all just puppets or playthings of the deity or deities?

    Hardly worth living...LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertas View Post
    So we are all just puppets or playthings of the deity or deities?

    Hardly worth living...LOL.
    I think it just means what another poster stated, you do what you want to do it's just God already knows what you are going to choose...if anything it's boring for God
    "A man must accept his fate or be destroyed by it." ~Spartacus

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