Balkans

[Absinthe]

All people I know that went to Greece are either gypsies, or very low social class, low educated, cleaners, seasonal workers. I am quite satifistied with that, let them stay there, you can take feufrei he feels more greek it seems.

That holds true for the majority of immigrants everywhere, no matter which country they come from. The majority comes for the underclass, that's why they also create a bad image for their country of origin, in their host country.

Look, I don't mean disrespect for Bulgarians. I like Bulgarians a lot and I've had Bulgarian friends irl.
I just get appalled when in an irrelevant thread about the Balkans in general, certain Bulgarians feel the need to bash and speak ill of Greek women and Greeks in general...

[пустиняк]

Ти нямаш ли познати от Бургас, Созопол, Несебър и т.н.?!

Aren't most people there from Eastern Thrace. I don't know that's why I asked.

[Absinthe]

I'm a scruffy, prone to criminal activity, vulgar Bulgar. What do you expect?

Well if you say so....

[пустиняк]

Bulgarians feel the need to bash and speak ill of Greek women

I'm telling my impression from that what I've seen :
If you think that I'm tellin that because Greeks girls don't find me attractive this is your problem

[morski]

Aren't most people there from Eastern Thrace. I don't know that's why I asked.

Most are Bulgarians from Eastern Thrace, a lot from Macedonia and other parts of the country as well in the big cities. There are however local Greeks who did not leave for Greece when the Molov-Kafandaris arrangement was implemented. They are pretty much assimilated nowadays. Mixed marriages etc. I personally know a whole bunch of people with some Greek grand-parent or fully Greek from that area. They have association of some sort even.

And then there are the Greeks in Plovdiv, Asenovgrad, the Karakatchani, etc. Not to mention that Thrace and to a lesser extent Macedonia was like a jigsaw puzzle in the whole Medieval period up until the mid 20th c. Bulgarians, Greeks and Turks were all over the place.



примерно...

[пустиняк]

Most are Bulgarians from Eastern Thrace, a lot from Macedonia and other parts of the country as well in the big cities. There are however local Greeks who did not leave for Greece when the Molov-Kafandaris arrangement was implemented. They are pretty much assimilated nowadays. Mixed marriages etc. I personally know a whole bunch of people with some Greek grand-parent or fully Greek from that area. They have association of some sort even.

And then there are the Greeks in Plovdiv, Asenovgrad, the Karakatchani, etc. Not to mention that Thrace and to a lesser extent Macedonia was like a jigsaw puzzle in the whole Medieval period up until the mid 20th c. Bulgarians, Greeks and Turks were all over the place.



примерно...

Do your family has Greek blood ?

[morski]

Do your family has Greek blood ?

I believe I have some relatives in Greece. A sister of my grand-grand mother from Odrin went to Greece instead of Bulgaria in 1913. She was loyal to the Constantinople Patriarchy so she became Greek, while her siblings were Exarchists and Bulgarian.

Additionally, my Strandzha ancestors lived in a village which was painted Greek in all 19c. ethnographic maps, though in my memories of the place from the late 20c. it was 100% Bulgarian.

My point is that Southern Bulgarians and Northern Greeks(the natives, not the ones that came from Anatolia) definitely overlap and one of the reasons is that as recently as the beginning of the 20c. there was still Thracians and Macedonians who switched ethnicities. That's not debatable.

Not any I'm aware of.

I feel I need to add that in the past bi- and tri-lingualism was widespread. That's why switching ethnicities was much easier than today. Just to give you a better perspective on that matter if you are wondering.

[Trun]

Не само това, преди кризата гърците масово си бяха изнесли произвдоството в Петрич, Сандански експлоатирайки жестоко местните хора,
Виждал съм как в Сандански гръцки бизнесмени често ходят само заради курвите, или гръцки педали да ебат млади циганчета.
Просто тоя ме дразни, опитвайки се да ни сложи в един кюп с гърците, които са ми адски противни

За какъв кюп ми говориш? Кога съм казал, че имаме нещо повече от външна прилика, някои обичаи и подобен манталитет? Пък и за браковете това го казах просто защото българките са по-хубави и гърците ги предпочитат, а ти говориш за някакви курви и не знам си що...значи за тебе всяка българка, която се омъжи за грък, турчин или нещо такова, е курва? Хайде стига с този див национализъм, заради него сега граничим със себе си, а не със Средиземно море и Албания...

[пустиняк]

My favorite thing ranger vs feuerfrei.

[hajduk]

За какъв кюп ми говориш? Кога съм казал, че имаме нещо повече от външна прилика, някои обичаи и подобен манталитет? Пък и за браковете това го казах просто защото българките са по-хубави и гърците ги предпочитат, а ти говориш за някакви курви и не знам си що...значи за тебе всяка българка, която се омъжи за грък, турчин или нещо такова, е курва? Хайде стига с този див национализъм, заради него сега граничим със себе си, а не със Средиземно море и Албания...

Все пак това е форум с националистически наклон, ако ти се радваш на такива бракове, аз определено не се, в такъв случай се чудя какво правиш тука освен да се опиташ да наложиш идеите си, които не се споделят от повечето българи