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    Quote Originally Posted by feuerfrei View Post
    Or maybe something recorded on a video camera in 1920s?

    Haven't you heard of artefact destruction? Bulgarian scripts destroyed or rewritten in Greek (sometimes quite visible)?

    To be honest, sometimes I doubt that official language in Bulgaria until 9th century really was Greek and that ancient Bulgarians and Thracians really had no script...
    sure of course, but there is allways evidence, if the went to all villiges to burnd or re wright the records some one muste have made it befor they did and hidden it or what ever, am not saying u are wrong, there are probobly bulgarians who are assimilated to greece and the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rashka View Post
    so says feuerfrei... 400 years off.

    These Serbs from nowadays Poland, went to join other Slavs in the Balkans.

    375 a.d.
    The Huns and Alans trigger a migration of Slavic tribes towards Central Europe and South Europe.


    The Unknown Archont (Serbian: Непознати кнез, Nepoznati knez) is a conventional name given by historians to the great Serbian leader who led the White Serbs from their homeland around south west Poland to settle in the Balkans after 610, during the reign of Byzantine Emperor Heraclius (610–641).
    Yeah, Slavs created the world

    Slavs hadn't left anything in Bulgaria until 9th century. Maybe our Slavs were the dumbest, I don't know...

    I repeat, there was nothing Slavic until the "bad" Bulgarians decided to educate and civilize other Slavs a bit with the help of Byzantines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandelion View Post
    What kind of ''Big'' problems? Because , again, I have seen no other nationals having problems claiming their nationality.
    What other nationality except the Turks had your lands?Since you're Greek,do you really belive somebody who is Bulgarian living in Greece will discuss this subject with you.Should I belive my cousin's great grand-father(RIP) for all the crap he had passed trhough or should I belive your goverment.In fact,what goverment will confess such thing?Our gov. did the same to the Bulgarian Turks who claimed to be Turks.So open your eyes people and look at the facts.
    "Човек дори и добре да живее умира и друг се ражда, но оставя това което е съградил."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milenko View Post
    sure of course, but there is allways evidence, if the went to all villiges to burnd or re wright the records some one muste have made it befor they did and hidden it or what ever, am not saying u are wrong, there are probobly bulgarians who are assimilated to greece and the other way around.
    Perhaps the refugees should have kept a notebook or even better...."You are about to kick our arses,therefore I've got a peace of paper for you to sign,so I can prove you vandalism"....Bull shit.All sources are the eye withnesses of the kiling of the retreating unarmed people.Since you are Serb let me ask you about the Bulgarians(some say 50% of the population) in Dimitrovgrad(Tzaribrod).Does your gov. confess their exsistens?Hell no...
    "Човек дори и добре да живее умира и друг се ражда, но оставя това което е съградил."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa View Post
    Perhaps the refugees should have kept a notebook or even better...."You are about to kick our arses,therefore I've got a peace of paper for you to sign,so I can prove you vandalism"....Bull shit.All sources are the eye withnesses of the kiling of the retreating unarmed people.Since you are Serb let me ask you about the Bulgarians(some say 50% of the population) in Dimitrovgrad(Tzaribrod).Does your gov. confess their exsistens?Hell no...
    u mean if i belive that in that town are 50% bulgarians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa View Post
    What other nationality except the Turks had your lands?
    You mean except Romans for many hundreds of years, Ottomans for some hundreds too, and Venetians ?
    Since you're Greek,do you really belive somebody who is Bulgarian living in Greece will discuss this subject with you.Should I belive my cousin's great grand-father(RIP) for all the crap he had passed trhough or should I belive your goverment.In fact,what goverment will confess such thing?Our gov. did the same to the Bulgarian Turks who claimed to be Turks.So open your eyes people and look at the facts.
    I look at the facts. I look the facts that Muslims in Thrace identify as Turks, Pomaks and Roma and have no trouble speaking their language, even this part was under Ottomans/Turks in the past.
    I also see that there are linguistic groups in Greece that have no problem talking their language.

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    eyewitnesses are always credible, people can say much just for the sake of pitty or the winning in there favor, now am not saying it didint happend, am just saying that eyewitnesses arent allways the best evidence

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandelion View Post
    I look at the facts. I look the facts that Muslims in Thrace identify as Turks, Pomaks and Roma and have no trouble speaking their language, even this part was under Ottomans/Turks in the past.
    I also see that there are linguistic groups in Greece that have no problem talking their language.
    What does "no problem" mean? You expect somebody to punch them just for uttering a single word in their language?

    Bulgarians don't have schools where it is taught in Bulgarian. Why? Because nobody lets them to open schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandelion View Post
    You mean except Romans for many hundreds of years, Ottomans for some hundreds too, and Venetians ?


    I look at the facts. I look the facts that Muslims in Thrace identify as Turks, Pomaks and Roma and have no trouble speaking their language, even this part was under Ottomans/Turks in the past.
    I also see that there are linguistic groups in Greece that have no problem talking their language.
    Agh...Whatever.This is turning into a childish game.I'd rather have a cup o' coffee instead.Cheers
    "Човек дори и добре да живее умира и друг се ражда, но оставя това което е съградил."

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