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    The researchers were able to estimate that between 35 and 55 percent of the modern Ashkenazi genome comes from European descent.
    This does not translate to:
    "35-55% Ashkenazis are of European descent."


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    In my experience the typical American Jew is a slightly exotic looking caucasoid like the father of the atomic bomb, J. Robert Oppenheimer.


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    I don't think this article is very convincing.
    E.g. one example they use is
    "A variant of the lactase gene swept through Europe at around the same time as the domestication of cattle several thousand years ago," Bray says. "This result suggests the selection preceded the European establishment of the Ashkenazi Jewish population, which is consistent with the historical record.

    I guess "Europe" for them starts at like Switzerland or something.. lol "Swept"
    & I wonder how Sicilians would score in this "analysis."
    Y: E-V12 (E1b1b1a1a*)

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    Subrace: Arabid/East Med + Armenoid/Dinaric


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    Quote Originally Posted by PetiteParisienne View Post
    Sephardic Jews are not considered white, especially those from North African countries. Their religious and ethnic practices are very different from those of Ashkenazi Jews, as well.
    There are some sephardic jews though who look white even though not all of them are white. Would you agree that perhaps there are some white sephardic jews?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetiteParisienne View Post
    Interesting study from 2010 on the genetic diversity of Ashkenazi Jews. Food for thought.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0826141331.htm
    My old best friend, said to be a 100% Polish Jew, actually had both sets of grandparents grow up in the same little Polish Village.....but who never actually met one another while they were still living in Europe! They all met after immigrating here to the US at different times.

    Funny thing is, though....her mother's side is pretty fair and Eastern-European looking.....but her dad's side look practically like they just stepped off the boat from Israel or the Middle East.

    Odd. Both parents are 100% Polish....although there may be a touch of Russian admixture.

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    Most Ashkenazis Jews are descendants of Khazars, Semi-European tribe from Pontic steppes so it's not suprising that a lot of Ashkenazis have european appearance or gene pool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ariaka View Post
    There are some sephardic jews though who look white even though not all of them are white. Would you agree that perhaps there are some white sephardic jews?
    I'm not going to say it's impossible, though I know a lot of Sephardic Jews, and I think most would probably be offended if they were referred to as white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhiannon View Post
    My old best friend, said to be a 100% Polish Jew, actually had both sets of grandparents grow up in the same little Polish Village.....but who never actually met one another while they were still living in Europe! They all met after immigrating here to the US at different times.

    Funny thing is, though....her mother's side is pretty fair and Eastern-European looking.....but her dad's side look practically like they just stepped off the boat from Israel or the Middle East.

    Odd. Both parents are 100% Polish....although there may be a touch of Russian admixture.
    That's a great story! I'm not surprised about the differences in her parents' appearances. European Jews are very diverse physically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetiteParisienne View Post
    I'm not going to say it's impossible, though I know a lot of Sephardic Jews, and I think most would probably be offended if they were referred to as white.
    Are the ones you know , Iberian Sephardites, for example, Sephardites that went to Europe instead of north Africa or the Ottoman empire? In this case I don't see why they should feel less white than the Ashkenazis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Cool View Post
    That's why I specified those from Portugal (look up Belmonte Jews) and Spain. Not those that got expelled into other countries and mixed with the locals.
    Ashkenazis would not consider them to be white. Sephardic history and customs are just too different. The Belmontes are descended from Sephardim.

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