The making of the fyroMacedonian language.

[morski]

Macedonian ethnicity evolved from a regional identity that was often considered either Serbian or Bulgarian. It's like Luxembourg or Switzerland where they don't feel German but Luxemburger and Swiss.

Our regional identity has always been there but obviously with some Bulgarian/Serbian overtones because of the dominating roles both countries had in the Balkans.

The only mistake we made was the adoption of antiquity. But in reality, we were driven to claim antiquity because of extremist Greek and Bulgarian attitudes. The Bulgarian claim of Macedonians being simply Bulgarian and the Greek obstruction during the 90s drove us to a claim a history that wasn't exclusively ours and too far back in history to feel any connection with.

Stop repeating the same old bullshit. Read history from reliable sources. It did not evolve. It was forced upon the people by the Comintern and Tito.

[Thraex]

Stop repeating the same old bullshit. Read history from reliable sources. It did not evolve. It was forced upon the people by the Comintern and Tito.

Whatever floats your boat.

[morski]

Оче наш, кој си на небесата,
да се свети името Твое,
да дојде царството Твое,
да биде волјата Твоја,
како на небото, така и на земјата;
лебот наш насушен дај ни го денес
и прости ни ги долговите наши
како и ние што им ги проштеваме на нашите должници;
и не нè воведувај во искушение,
но избави нè од лукавиот.
Амин!

Отче наш, Който си на небесата!
Да се свети Твоето име,
да дойде Твоето Царство,
да бъде Твоята воля,
както на небето, тъй и на земята;
насъщния ни хляб дай ни днес,
и прости нам дълговете ни,
както и ние прощаваме на нашите длъжници,
и не въведи нас в изкушение,
но избави ни от лукавия;
защото Твое е царството,
и силата, и славата вовеки.
Амин.

[Thraex]

Is Croatian a dialect of Serbian according to your logic?

[morski]

Serbian and Croatian are part of a single dialect continuum in the same way in which fyroMacedonian and Bulgarian form a dialect continuum. But those are different cases with different history and thus not comparable.

[Thraex]

Serbian and Croatian are part of a single dialect continuum in the same way in which Macedonian and Bulgarian form a dialect continuum. But those are different cases with different history and thus not comparable.

It doesn't really matter that our languages are similar to a point. The Serbs and Croats speak a similar langauge but they are still a distinctive ethnicity just like we are. More comparisons could be drawn from the Swiss, Austrians, Dutch, and so on...

[Guapo]

a Serb fucked a Greek chick and out cam teh Fyromians(and bulgars)

[Europa]

a Serb fucked a Greek chick and out cam teh Fyromians(and bulgars)

This is the biggest load of bull shit I've ever heard about.And it's spelled Bulgarian/s not Bulgars......Cloun

[morski]

The fyroMacedonian language is a politcal fact today. It is however doubtful that it is stabilized enough, since it is a very recent phenomenon- it exists since 1944. The vernacular spoken in and around Skopie for example can more accurately be described as a heavily creolized Serbo-Bulgarian. And what they speak in Southern and especially Eastern Macedonia is closer to Bulgarian standard. There is virtually no clear border between the dialects spoken in Bulgaria and fyroMacedonia.

Bulgarian itself is a pluricentric language and the norm in fyroMacedonia can be described as another standardization of the same language. Along with Banat Bulgarian which uses the latin alphabet there are in all 3 standardized varieties of Bulgarian. A situation somewhat similar to the case of Dutch, Flemish and Afrikaans.

Dusan, mate, I do not think you have the right to participate in any debate concerning the matter wheather fyroMacedonian and Bulgarian are one or two different languages since you do not have command of either.

[пустиняк]

a Serb fucked a Greek chick and out cam teh Fyromians(and bulgars)

Thread closed.

Guapo you're legend mate