hair/eye color and phenotype

[Tabiti]

Green eyes could also be found in India, Pakistan, Afganistan...
A fact is that the most common eye color on the Balkans (and bigger part of Europe) are brown and hazel. Yes, I still know many people with different light mixed eyes in fact half of my relatives, but statistics always seem to claim something different from what we see.
BTW, being swarthy doesn't depend on your eye color - there are light eyed people with tan and black eyed people with quite fair skins.

[Vargtand]

Green eyes could also be found in India, Pakistan, Afganistan...
A fact is that the most common eye color on the Balkans (and bigger part of Europe) are brown and hazel. Yes, I still know many people with different light mixed eyes in fact half of my relatives, but statistics always seem to claim something different from what we see.
BTW, being swarthy doesn't depend on your eye color - there are light eyed people with tan and black eyed people with quite fair skins.

And then there are the mythical boxers walking about with their black eyes.

[Inese]

Perhpas 20% is too high. From what I can gather Letts got:

1. Pure blues (15-16) reach 25%, and together with pure grays (13-14 on the Martin's scale) they total 33.3%

2. However, total light eyes equal 57-59%. Now, this category apart from pure blue and pure grey eyes, encompasses also all shades of light-mixed eyes, that is green-grey/blue and brown-grey/blue.

I dont know that Coon man but most Latvians have blue eyes in bright or darker shade!! 25% blue eyed people in Latvia is too low and it does not matter what your Coon says! He is wrong okay?

3. Together, these light-mixed shades equal (57/59% - 33.3%) = 24-26%

Now, most of these 26% are mixed-blues, but some proportion should be green-grey/blue. If we take approx one third of that number as our pale greens we will get about 9%. As for the remaining 15 % - these are dark eyes. Out of these 15% - some are dark green and hazel (7-9 on the Martin's scale), but some are brown. If we take one third again, and assume its our dark green frequency, we will get 5%. Add it up with the 9% you get about 14%.

What are you calculating and calculating about?? O.o A little addition hhere and a little subtraktion there!! You rely too hard on your book and mathematics you little bookworm!! Take a trip to Latvia ( Poland is not far away ) and look yourself ---- make a study and look 100 people in the eyes. But you must ask them before if they are not Russians okay? Make a study of 100 Latvian people in a city like Kuldiga and you see that your Coon is not right.

First of all, Karl, was talking about Estonia, which is different, speaks a different language, and's got a different history (dating back to 3000 BC). You can't lump Latvia and Finnic countries into same category, coz they are clearly not the same. Not just geographically or linguistically.

Oh super thank you for the lesson mister obvios do you think i do not know the history of my country?? Read what i write i said that i have made smiliar experience like Karl ---- he says he has not seen green eyes in Estonia often and i say i have the same experience made in Latvia!! But i made no link between the countrys.

Long live the true Aryans - the Albinos!

A albino of African people --- not very fair , they are a other race! I mean too much melanin is not good but a very little bit have all people and only Albinos miss it. And sometimes European Albinos look better than African albinos or some Balkan people you know....

^_^

Some afghan people have green eyes also

[Tabiti]

A albino of African people --- not very fair , they are a other race! I mean too much melanin is not good but a very little bit have all people and only Albinos miss it. And sometimes European Albinos look better than African albinos or some Balkan people you know....

And some.. Germans:

[Jarl]

I dont know that Coon man but most Latvians have blue eyes in bright or darker shade!! 25% blue eyed people in Latvia is too low and it does not matter what your Coon says!

Look you, German-Latvian woman, Coon said 25% Letts have the lightest shades of blue. With other darker blue and grey shades this amounts to 33.3%. Now if we add light-mixed eyes too, which apart from grey-green accounts for different shades of blue (with some pigment present) this raises to 57-59%.

Indeed. I agree. It seems quite low as these 57-59% are not only pure blue eyes. I will check the Talko-Hryncewicz study and make a comparison here, while you should do a survey on some Latvian dating service.

He is wrong okay?

Okay, okay! He might be wrong. I never said he was correct. Shall I dig him up and hang him by the neck, like they did with Oliver Cromwell???

What are you calculating and calculating about??

Oh, you do not want to know that, baby!

O.o A little addition hhere and a little subtraktion there!!

...and we've got our perfect woman!

You rely too hard on your book and mathematics you little bookworm!!

Not that little, baby! hehe...

Take a trip to Latvia ( Poland is not far away )

Is that an invitation??? eek!

and look yourself ----

Oh, sure I will! up

make a study and look 100 people in the eyes. But you must ask them before if they are not Russians okay?

I assume, those who've got brown eyes, but say "no" are krypto-Russians...

Make a study of 100 Latvian people in a city like Kuldiga and you see that your Coon is not right.

Oh super thank you for the lesson mister obvios...

My pleasure... as always! Come and get some more if you want to! Latvia is not so far away from Poland, and Germany is even closer!





....have I really written this post???

[Beorn]

Make a study of 100 Latvian people in a city like Kuldiga and you see that your Coon is not right.

I'd say Coon is correct.

I have met a few Latvians in my time, and have had the pleasure of being able to look a few in the eyes for periods of time ranging from several minutes to several seconds.

I'd say the conclusions Tabiti and Jarl have been stating hold true.

[Allenson]

This is a good eye color chart:



In my opinion, the middle eye and the middle-left eye are both green (not hazel!). I swear, the middle-left eye could be my own.

Anyway, as far as geographic frequency, I've always been under the impression that truly green eyes are more common in northwestern Europe and are the legacy of the paleolithic settlers of this genetic cul-de-sac.....

I'm not positive on that one though as there doesn't seem to be much info on the geography of green eyes. Just "light", "light-mixed" and "dark".

[Tabiti]

^ None is "pure green", imo, just blue and hazel mixed.

[Útrám]

I believe it was Lundman who stated that the majority of people belonging to the Nordid type(in the narrow sense) are of light pigmentation, but can take darker forms in solution with other types as well as independently.

James Stewart is a good example.

[Tabiti]

Aren't his lips too full for Nordid?