Who is White to you? Multiple choice.

[Peyrol]

Circassians, "white" don't mean "euro"; many pakis, iranians and indians are "white" but definitely not europeans.

[Linet]

So being a white is a social thing? I see...

being European it is...
Being white...i dont care...
I am Greek and i could be Green with red stripes for all i care

[Sultan Suleiman]

Circassians are sunni muslims so Bosnian and VrhBosnian are the only one claiming their whiteness. Coincidence?

I am a Sunni as much as you are an Orthodox

And to me if you look white you are white, not that much thinking.

[Hess]

Very funny, I am not cyring or anything but stating facts. The North Caucasians are indeed much fairer than most Med Islanders, and the only reason they are not seen White, despite being it phenotypically is because of a cultural bias nothing more and nothing less. Just like Ashkenazim are seen as White in the real world, due to their phenotype the same is true of North Caucasians. The fact no one has pushed agenda to dispute the Whiteness of the North Caucasians, unlike various other populations speaks enough of this issue. The average Med islander is darker well the average North Caucasian is lighter. Even when North Caucasians are dark haired and eyed they are no doubt lighter than the Med islanders.

Non-white rofl average North Caucasian:


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White average Med islander rofl:


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The first is only rejected because of cultural bias, well the Arab or mixed Arab looking Med islander is accepted because she is of part of the civiliation of Christendom. However in the real world, the North Caucasian will be seen as White, and not the Med islanders, you are the one being emotional due to me stating the facts.

You don't seem to understand that the term "white" is only 50% based on Genetics and Phenotype.

The other 50% is based on culture, and the Chechen mentality is completely alien to Europe.

[Padre Organtino]

I am not cherry picking at all, just saying the truth. On average North Caucasians are Whiter and often more fair than Med islanders. The only reason they are rejected is because of a cultural bias. Chechens, Circassians, Avars, and so on are indeed lighter than the majority of Med Islanders and are White.

Maka Sagaipova does not look like an average Chechen/North Caucasian girl and Chechens while being lighter than Sicilians have less European facial features on average.
You seem to constantly bring the topic of real/imaginery Arab ancestry in South-Eastern Euros and you have stated in cb that you dislike some of them. It's obvious that you can't make unbiased judgement.
On teh other hand I don't agree with Hess's consept of the existence of some universal European culture.

[Hurrem sultana]

I am a Sunni as much as you are an Orthodox

And to me if you look white you are white, not that much thinking.

stop with that hamzi islam thing,,,you should convert to sunni islam

[StonyArabia]

Maka Sagaipova does not look like an average Chechen/North Caucasian girl and Chechens while being lighter than Sicilians have less European facial features on average.

Well they have their own Northern Caucasian look of course but they are indeed Whiter than many Med Islanders.

You seem to constantly bring the topic of real/imaginery Arab ancestry in South-Eastern Euros and you have stated in cb that you dislike some of them. It's obvious that you can't make unbiased judgement.

Med Islanders were ruled by Arabians, and some of them clearly mixed with the rulers. This also why they tend to have some what Levantine or even North African features at times. The girl that I posted clearly would not stand out among Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians or even Tunisians. Well the other one does not. I had rough experience with the Wog Med islanders thinking their cool and stuff. It's not imagined it's real and proven by genetics as well the exotic phenotypes never seen among North Caucasians, true there are here and there Turanids but that's about it.

on the other hand I don't agree with Hess's consept of the existence of some universal European culture.

Well if North Caucasians became Christian and interacted with Europe they would probably have been as White and would be considered White and seen to be more than some other groups.

[dralos]

stop with that hamzi islam thing,,,you should convert to sunni islam

no he should become catholicislamists

[SKYNET]

You don't seem to understand that the term "white" is only 50% based on Genetics and Phenotype.

The other 50% is based on culture, and the Chechen mentality is completely alien to Europe.

It's really a wonder that people from third world as Russia talking about "white"

[Padre Organtino]

Med Islanders were ruled by Arabians, and some of them clearly mixed with the rulers. This also why they tend to have some what Levantine or even North African features at times. The girl that I posted clearly would not stand out among Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians or even Tunisians. Well the other one does. I had rough experience with the Wog Med islanders thinking their cool and stuff. It's not imagined it's real and proven by genetics as well the exotic phenotypes never seen among North Caucasians, true there are here and there Turanids but that's about it.

The girl you posted does not look like an average Sicilian. And they stand out in Europe less than North Caucasians despite being darker. You last couple of sentences prove my point. You dislike them and try to piss them off.