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    Quote Originally Posted by sydvice View Post
    i live in adjara and i know what is going in georgia
    russia is trying to get all whole georgia
    russia supports and sends pro -russian leaders
    all people deserve their independence
    and especially when these people whant to independent
    when georgia was part of russia ,russia was trying to destroy everything georgian
    i am sure something simmilar is happening in north caucasus
    Well, you are wrong. Dagestanis don't wont independence - they want money from Moscow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tu_veneno View Post
    I don't want to sound mean and rude, but obviously, if Russia wants, they can easily make you another republic or province of their country
    Russia couldn't do that. The last thing any of us want is war, but if there is one, Russia would lose it.

    The last time there was a war between Estonia and Russia, they lost it and paid for our war damages.

    In 1940, Estonia was just given an ultimatum and our leaders didn't want bloodshed that could have been devastating for the Estonians, thus they gave in and Estonia was annexed.

    If anything, even Obama doesn't think Estonia is of importance!
    He does, actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tu_veneno View Post
    Do you really think Russia cares about Estonia

    I don't want to sound mean and rude, but obviously, if Russia wants, they can easily make you another republic or province of their country

    You are just scared of Putin, because you see power in him and his actions. If anything, even Obama doesn't think Estonia is of importance!
    Estonia is member of NATO Alliance. Attack against any member of NATO Alliance will consider attack against all members of NATO...according to Article 5 of the Washington Treaty!


    Article 5 is at the basis of a fundamental principle of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation. It provides that if a NATO Ally is the victim of an armed attack, each and every other member of the Alliance will consider this act of violence as an armed attack against all members and will take the actions it deems necessary to assist the Ally attacked.

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    With a total population of 1,400,000 people, of whom Russians are nearly 400,000 anything can happen. Russians in your country can start riot or war or revolution whenever they want. They will have the back up of Russia, Estonia will have the back up of EU.
    Russians have enough weapons to start just a war with Estonia. Not the EU, not the US, just with some dot in the map.
    Estonia is like most ex-communist states - you're neither that important to the EU, nor you are really of big importance to the boss (in this case, Russia). So, you're somewhere in the middle. Russia can just step on you if she wants. It's a matter of time this happens. As I said, the EU is concerned about Germany and France, not Estonia, Latvia and some countries I can't really spot on the map Good Luck with beating 140 million Russia.
    NATO is there because of the US and Israel. Imagine what will happen when the US are attacked. It's like they are attacking themselves and making another 9/11!

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    To be honest I doubt Nato will move a finger if Russia decides to be a bitch, and if Nato did act, the most they would do is bomb Tallinn and other Estonian cities to "liberate" it.

    Estonia is in a difficult position, either Moskal Scum or Nato scum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tu_veneno View Post
    With a total population of 1,400,000 people, of whom Russians are nearly 400,000 anything can happen.
    *1 300 000 people

    Russians in your country can start riot or war or revolution whenever they want.
    lol, do you think that Estonia is like Somalia, without anyone ruling the country?

    Russians here can't start anything and they're not as idiotic as you are. But they did revolt in 2007 and that just ended with all the vandals lying on a concrete floor while being handcuffed. Central Tallinn suffered a bit, though. The Mongol horde got a bit carried away.

    They will have the back up of Russia, Estonia will have the back up of EU.
    Russia can't interfere in the politics of other independent countries, while Estonia is a member of the EU, thus anything that happens in the EU doesn't need "EU back up" as it's an internal issue.

    Russians have enough weapons to start just a war with Estonia. Not the EU, not the US, just with some dot in the map.
    Russia has enough weapons to start a war with half of the world? Cool.

    Estonia is like most ex-communist states
    Not really, it's very different from most ex-communist states, be it on a cultural, linguistic, historical or economical level.

    - you're neither that important to the EU, nor you are really of big importance to the boss (in this case, Russia). So, you're somewhere in the middle.
    Estonia is a EU member state. EU not giving a damn about its member states is like the US ignoring Mexico invading California.

    Russia can just step on you if she wants.
    ...and then be overrun by European and American troops?

    It's a matter of time this happens.
    You're a naive little girl who knows nothing about war. No one wants to unleash nor does anyone have the reason to unleash it.

    I don't think that "it's a matter of time" when Russia signs it death warrant.

    As I said, the EU is concerned about Germany and France, not Estonia, Latvia and some countries I can't really spot on the map Good Luck with beating 140 million Russia.
    Good luck on becoming intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magyar the Conqueror View Post
    To be honest I doubt Nato will move a finger if Russia decides to be a bitch
    I wonder why do NATO fighters escort all Russian strategical bombers who wander to close to the Estonian border? Last time this happened was 2 months ago, as there were some military exercises in Kaliningrad.

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    The Russians would have no reason to go to war as it would be economic suicide for them.. it would be a bitch for us to if it happened during winter but it would be economic suicide for the Russians because they need us to pay for their gas if we don't because they went to war they will be short of cash very soon.

    The Russians and the other Europeans are far too happy about the status quo to go to war.



    Wake up and smell the coffee.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    I wonder why do NATO fighters escort all Russian strategical bombers who wander to close to the Estonian border? Last time this happened was 2 months ago, as there were some military exercises in Kaliningrad.
    A war with Estonia might will probably play out similar to Georgia.
    Of course it will depend on many factors, NATO might want to keep "good relations" with Russia, so Estonia might be overlooked.
    NATO is hardly an honourable organisation, they are mostly scum.

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    Magyar, are you anti-West and anti-Russian or you are just pro-Magyar?

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