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    In any event, there are a number of organizations that assess political freedom globally.

    Descriptions of the US and UK are identical using language like 'free', 'mostly free', 'satisfactory situation', and 'full democracy'.

    Russia on the other hand scores the same as Communist Vietnam, and worse than Turkey, Venezuela, and Uganda with descriptions like 'not free', 'mostly not free', 'difficult situation', and 'authoritarian'.

    The Putinist regime stays in power mostly by keeping real opposition off the ballot (the by now infamous 'Kremlin approved' cliche) and giving massively slanted press coverage to the ruling clique in state run media.

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    Putin's top UIKs (local electoral commissions) in Moscow:
    УИК №1786 96.07% Psychiatric ward
    УИК №3357 94.46% Nursing home for the elderly
    УИК №3260 91.90% Disabled rehabilitation centre
    УИК №3245 91.09% Psychiatric ward
    УИК №3222 89.15% Detention centre (pre-trial)
    УИК №3401 87.85% Detention centre (pre-trial)
    УИК №3356 87.60% Nursing home for the elderly
    УИК №3242 85.21% Detention centre (pre-trial)
    УИК №3273 84.88% Nursing home for the elderly
    УИК №3317 84.77% Detention centre (pre-trial)
    УИК №1881 84.47% Psychiatric ward for the elderly
    УИК №3243 84.20% City clinic
    УИК №3387 83.58% Detention centre (pre-trial)
    УИК №3372 83.26% City clinic
    УИК №3310 82.63% Nursing home for the elderly
    УИК №1980 81.90% Psychiatric ward
    УИК №2879 80.27% Nursing home for the elderly
    УИК №3281 80.08% Psychiatric ward
    УИК №3355 79.94% Nursing home for the elderly

    Not one electoral commission that would include ordinary people instead of dependents. Still, the situation has improved somewhat due to the tons of supervisors. For example, our local psychiatric ward UIK 3351 used to have 86.51% United Russia, and now it's just 74.93% Putin.

    Below is the distribution of votes by UIK in Moscow, sorted by UIK number. State institutions like psychiatric wards, nursery homes, prisons, etc. are numbered 3XXX, though there are exceptions: Putin spikes outside the 3XXX area overwhelmingly coincide with such exceptions (as shown above).


    Here is a massive table with all commissions for Moscow: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...weFFZZXc#gid=0 - the votes are in the rightmost part, if you can't read Russian. All data were taken from the relevant official website (see the links inside).

    The total votes for Moscow are as follows:
    Zhirinovsky 6.30%
    Zyuganov 19.18%
    Mironov 5.05%
    Prokhorov 20.45%
    Putin 46.95%

    Somewhat amusingly, Putin's result is identical to United Russia's result in Moscow: 46.5%. The distribution of votes is much less anomalous though, with fewer areas having odd turnouts and 60%+ votes for the ruling party:

    x = percentage of votes, y = total number of votes

    I suppose it's needless to further comment about the "turnout" of 99.61% with 99.76% "votes" for Putin in Chechnya and the likes, but I'll have a closer look at this later on.
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    Single Population Sharing (Eurogenes)
    1 Estonian_Polish 4.36
    2 Russian_Smolensk 4.88
    3 Southwest_Russian 5.32
    4 Belorussian 5.78
    5 Lithuanian 5.92

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    Humanophage, you guys (Putin 'critics') make Putin look like a good guy. Your interest is not in creating a better Russia, but to foment revolution, create instability, a weaker Russia and pave the way for sharks and Americans to take hold.

    Thankfully, Putin won't let you guys do it. You might as well immigrate to the US or something. You are not a Russian patriot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Humanophage View Post
    Somewhat amusingly, Putin's result is identical to United Russia's result in Moscow: 46.5%.
    Why is that amusing?
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    Loki is more enthusiastic about Putin than most Russians are

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    Humanophage, let me break this to you: Putin is the most popular politician in Russia. It is time you respect the wishes of the majority of Russians - it is called democracy.

    You can come up with as many plots and graphs as you like, it won't change anything.

    You are effectively bed-buddies with Russia's sworn enemies: Americans and Jews. That is the beginning of truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hess View Post
    Loki is more enthusiastic about Putin than most Russians are
    That is not true. Putin is the most popular politician in Russia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Humanophage View Post
    All data were taken from the relevant official website (see the links inside).
    Which means there is honesty and visibility, right? I thought you did not trust official sources ... but only when it suits you, you will accept it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    That is not true. Putin is the most popular politician in Russia.
    Popular does not necessarily translate to well liked, though. I believe there is plenty of evidence (much of it posted by Humanophage) that points to massive voter fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hess View Post
    Popular does not necessarily translate to well liked, though. I believe there is plenty of evidence (much of it posted by Humanophage) that points to massive voter fraud.
    Even if there was voter fraud, it is very unlikely it would have tipped any of Putin's contenders to win the election.
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    I really don't mind Putin's authoritarianism that much. Some cultures just aren't ready for true democracy. In fact too much democracy can become just as bad as a dictatorship at times.

    But he really does need to crack down on immigration, stop supporting Islamist regimes, and think about joining the EU and not creating his Eurasian Union.

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