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    Estonians as a higher race than the Russians, and this is Gemanic opinion, and you want to talk with me about it? Are you in good state currently?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Estonians were seen as Nordic übermensch and 100% of the Estonian population was planned to be Germanized. At the same time, the Balts (Latvians and Lithuanians) were seen differently and about 50-60% of them were seen worthy enough to be Germanized, the rest would have been gotten rid off, I guess.
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunor View Post
    Interesting, too, that the Latvians and Lithuanians were seen as less valuable than their neighbors to the north. I wonder why that was? Maybe a stronger Russian influence in them?
    I'd strongly recommend reading the memoirs of Hjalmar Mäe to anyone who's interested in the German era in Estonia, he was the local in charge during the German occupation. Apparently there were Estonians in Germany who "influenced" German propagandists, and tried to portray Estonians as an ancient Germanic people who had lost their identity. Estonians managed to get many rights given to them by the Germans, that the Latvians and Lithuanians didn't have. Lithuanians and Baltic Germans were sometimes messing things up for Estonian relations with the Germans.

    There are a few curiosities I'd like to mention. German propaganda declared Estonians Aryans in 1944, when the war had taken a turn for the worse, not that Estonian soldiers really cared about that. At one point (1942 or '43) Alfred Rosenberg (himself a Baltic German from Estonia) had the University of Tartu assign Estonian names to placenames in the Leningrad and Pskov oblast "for a future Greater Estonia". Who knows...
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    Quote Originally Posted by beaver View Post
    Estonians as a higher race than the Russians, and this is Gemanic opinion, and you want to talk with me about it?
    You're the one who started an argument over this whole subject. I brought up a historical fact about the NS Germans and their views on Estonians and Russians. I did not say, at any point, "my opinion is that Estonians are better". Maybe this distinction escaped you totally.

    Are you in good state currently?
    I'm in a perfectly normal state, dude. Are you?

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    You're the one who started an argument over this whole subject. I brought up a historical fact about the NS Germans and their views on Estonians and Russians. I did not say, at any point, "my opinion is that Estonians are better". Maybe this distinction escaped you totally.
    If you insist
    first - Russians fuck all Germanic opinions
    second - Russians perceive any kind of Fiinn - like "чухонцы/chuhontsy" - most lower layer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beaver View Post
    first - Russians fuck all Germanic opinions
    Okay, you're welcome to think so.

    second - Russians perceive any kind of Fiinn - like "чухонцы/chuhontsy" - most lower layer.
    Well, I'll let the Finnish and Estonian members answer that. I'm not getting into this.

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    This Friday in Latvia will be VERY interesting, regarding waffen-ss related topics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beaver View Post
    second - Russians perceive any kind of Fiinn - like "чухонцы/chuhontsy" - most lower layer.
    What does this mean? I've seen many Russians on anthroboards using this term against Finns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anachronistic View Post
    What does this mean? I've seen many Russian on anthroboards using this term against Finns.
    It's a derivative of Chud, along with chukhna, i.e. how Russians historically called Baltic Finnics (and do so continually, in a disparaging way).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chud
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    It's rather ironic that Russians are using this slur, considering the high Finnic admixture in Northwestern Russians and that Russia is a complete shithole in comparision to Estonia and especially Finland.

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    Well, I'll let the Finnish and Estonian members answer that. I'm not getting into this.
    You provocated me, I dont want to conflict with such members as Ripper

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