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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre Organtino View Post
    Nah, I think at max Armenians and Georgians would be included. I mean Cypriots are already part Arab but that's as far as Hess can go
    So are the Maltese, btw the Maltese have more Arabian scores out of any European population, this can be seen in their genome denying this would be denying genetic reality. The Cypriots do have large doses of Arabian and Levantine blood which can be seen why the cluster with the Lebanese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CircassianWine View Post
    So are the Maltese, btw the Maltese have more Arabian scores out of any European population, this can be seen in their genome denying this would be denying genetic reality. The Cypriots do have large doses of Arabian and Levantine blood which can be seen why the cluster with the Lebanese.
    I don't think Maltese are really much different from South Italians and Sicilians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre Organtino View Post
    I don't think Maltese are really much different from South Italians and Sicilians.
    Actually they are, their Arabian scores are much higher than Sicilians let alone South Italians who barely have any. If the Maltese were not Westernized and Christianized they would have been seen as pure Semitic/Middle Eastern nation. They speak a dialect of Arabic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre Organtino View Post
    I can somewhat agree on looks but music is totally different

    Plus Georgians are not European anyway.
    In my opinion second song sounds a bit like the one you have posted

    but I' ve listened to also some Bosnian songs which have that arabic like sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CircassianWine View Post
    Actually they are, their Arabian scores are much higher than Sicilians let alone South Italians who barely have any. If the Maltese were not Westernized and Christianized they would have been seen as pure Semitic/Middle Eastern nation. They speak Arabic for god sakes.
    Ashkenazi speak Semitic but genetically they have nothing in common with Palestinians. Do you have a link to an autosomal DNA study that has their admixture profile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aivap View Post
    In my opinion second song sounds a bit like the one you have posted

    but I' ve listened to also some Bosnian songs which have that arabic like sound.
    Common instruments might produce superficial resemblence. And with regards to phenotypes - Eastern Georgians do have some similarity in looks with both Azeris and Armenians but Western ones look more North Turkish/North-West Caucasus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre Organtino View Post
    Ashkenazi speak Semitic but genetically they have nothing in common with Palestinians. Do you have a link to an autosomal DNA study that has their admixture profile?
    They score much higher SouthWest Asian as well North African and bits of East African. The Maltese results can be seen on Dodcode and 23andme as well in Eurogenes they are not similar to South Italians, they only share some links with Sicilians but in all and all they are the most Arabian influenced Europeans.
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    Most people you posted are called "Azeris" but they are from their minorities, indigeneous people of Caucasian Albania:Talysh (of Iraniac origin), Lezgin,Udins ( up to now Christians),Avars.

    Azeris have more Central Asian genes than Turks have and these people occupy upper class...

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    over 300 individuals that have already been tested, revealing that the Armenian branches of DNA are at the root of many branches in Europe.

    Armenians belong to 13 distinct genetic groups that go back tens of thousands of years, while at the same time there is no trace of invaders in their DNA in the last 4000 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre Organtino View Post
    Eastern Georgians do have some similarity in looks with both Azeris and Armenians but Western ones look more North Turkish/North-West Caucasus.
    Yes, also the people in northeast Turkey looks similar to Georgians but you gotta consider the fact that Stalin forcefully expelled out about 150.000 Turks from western Georgia to Siberian deserts during WW-2. Some of them should prefer to hide their identity to be able to stay in western Georgia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onur View Post
    Yes, also the people in northeast Turkey looks similar to Georgians but you gotta consider the fact that Stalin forcefully expelled out about 150.000 Turks from western Georgia to Siberian deserts during WW-2. Some of them should prefer to hide their identity to be able to stay in western Georgia
    Huh? You mean Ahiska Turks? They're mostly assimilated Georgians that lost their identity anyway. Not to mention that most of North Eastern Turkey is area of historical Laz and Georgian settlement.

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