Peace vs Preservation - which is more important?

[HungAryan]

A question, especially directed at people like rhianon and mymy.

What is more important?
The preservation of your race, or the lack of violence?
Does the preservation of your race justify violence?
Does the unwillingness to be violent justify racial suicide?

Discuss!

[Gamera]

You put it as if you need of violence to preserve your race/culture. The only fucking thing you need to do is marry someone of your kin and raise awareness among the people you consider to be your peers, not go around killing or beating up someone just because they are different.

If like in the case of Hungary you have a gypsy problem, or any other similar group which is detrimental to "x" nation as a whole then the solution would be to expel them. It's not that black or white.

[Radojica]

A question, especially directed at people like rhianon and mymy.

AND Radojica

What is more important?

Your question is an oxymoron (peace or preservation for one side, exclude the other side, so by automatism it's not possible and question should be asked in other way.

The preservation of your race, or the lack of violence?

Why would the lack of violence doom's one's nation? Look at the Swiss, or Sweden, they haven't been to war for more than 200 years. I see nothing wrong with them. Preservation of your nation could and more important CAN be done in peaceful way.

Does the preservation of your race justify violence?

Surely not. What gives my nation more right to exist over other nation?

Does the unwillingness to be violent justify racial suicide?

Only country in the question and which is falling to my mind is USA. You need to have in mind that black men in USA were the working class and they brought USA what have today. Blacks are the part of USA history and identity and they cannot be erased. Also, you can't stop people from falling in love to each other. Even if that might bother me, it won't affect my life generally.

[HungAryan]

If like in the case of Hungary you have a gypsy problem, or any other similar group which is detrimental to "x" nation as a whole then the solution would be to expel them. It's not that black or white.

And what if the people to be expelled don't want to go, and have to be forced by violence?

I've noticed that certain members would rather let their race die out than commit violence.

I'm not saying that we must be violent to preserve our race, but we must not abhor violence.
We should look for alternatives, but at the same time shouldn't be afraid of blood.
Had the Russians been as "tolerant" as modern-day Europeans, they would have never expelled the Tatars and Mongols, and liberated themselves.

[Rollo]

A question, especially directed at people like rhianon and mymy.

lol@this^

What is more important?
The preservation of your race, or the lack of violence?
Does the preservation of your race justify violence?
Does the unwillingness to be violent justify racial suicide?

Well it is struggle that has made us great as Europeans. And lack of it that makes us mediocre.

What does conflict/violence/war do? It sorts the boys from the men. Those who are brave, will show themselves in the conflict, and those who are cowards will also reveal themselves to us. It is a sort of racial test of our own people. The Cowards will be deemed unfit for the national community, and will be bred out by the brave, who would want a country of cowards?

What makes us drive to do our best? Competition. This is the good aspect of the Capitalist ideology, which Mussolini defined as "Heroic Capitalism."

I do not believe in violence as a means of running around and beating up immigrants until they piss off, as that is thuggish behaviour. But if there is a war that will be waged against our nations, because we wish for a pure society, that violence is justified, and the kind I am talking about

[Gamera]

I've noticed that certain members would rather let their race die out than commit violence.

Well, some people actually find killing wrong, you see. I'm baffled that you call yourself a Christian.

[HungAryan]

Well, some people actually find killing wrong, you see. I'm baffled that you call yourself a Christian.

Unjustified killing is wrong.
But defending yourself is not.
Would you let a murderer just kill you, without you fighting back?

[Rollo]

Why would the lack of violence doom's one's nation? Look at the Swiss, or Sweden, they haven't been to war for more than 200 years. I see nothing wrong with them. Preservation of your nation could and more important CAN be done in peaceful way..

Immigration is ruining Switzerland, my family hates it. No safety anymore, immigrants come in and act like thugs, and disrespect everything it means to be Swiss

[Joe McCarthy]

You put it as if you need of violence to preserve your race/culture. The only fucking thing you need to do is marry someone of your kin and raise awareness among the people you consider to be your peers, not go around killing or beating up someone just because they are different.

If like in the case of Hungary you have a gypsy problem, or any other similar group which is detrimental to "x" nation as a whole then the solution would be to expel them. It's not that black or white.

It was understood by segregationists during the Civil Rights era that integration would eventually destroy the white race. When Eisenhower moved by armed force to integrate Little Rock High School violence was necessary to resist integration. Of course, it didn't happen.

So yes, preservation is more important than peace if it's a question between the two, though at some point violence becomes pointless and ineffective and thus a waste of time. We've reached that point in the US now.

[Gamera]

Unjustified killing is wrong.
But defending yourself is not.
Would you let a murderer just kill you, without you fighting back?

No, but we're talking about groups as a whole, not individuals. Blacks, mestizos or Amerindians are not trying to "kill" me or anyone.