Who are the purest Aryans?

[MagnaLaurentia]

http://media.gunaxin.com/a-tribute-t...lander-4/66246

Haha.. I like this movie! Il ne peut en rester qu'un!

[aherne]

Those are not the Kurgan Types, at least if narrowing it down, like Austrvegr said it, but Corded people and their relatives.

They were more Nordoid/Nordo-Mediterranid than the classic early Kurgan-/Ochre grave/Yamnaya variants from the Ukraine and Southern Russia on average.

So while there are similarities, if talking about a "Kurgan type" this is not the same as "Corded type", because the first being more Cromagnid influenced relatively, while the latter more Nordo-Mediterranid.

The basic elements are similar and many overlap, but still, Kurgan type should be rather reserved, in my opinion, for the more progressive-refined Cromagnoids with Nordo-Mediterranid tendencies we find primarily in the steppe-Indo-Europeans and early Kurgan cultures.

Since all "Indo-Europeans" used kurgan burial up to 11th century AD, when Germanics were finally Christianized, this term is imprecise. Kurgan Types simply means Aryan types. I've used it to denote EARLY Aryan types, which show Cro-Magnid tendencies and the two Romanian actors I've exemplified are perfect examples of Early Aryans. The Aryans who invaded the North European plains (aka the Corded Ware people) underwent a slow process of gracilization, whereas those that stayed in the steppes (aka the Yamnaya people) retained the old type. Still, in the time span of Corded Ware culture, differences were pretty much minor and Early types were still very common (take for example figure #1). Today, the only people that show Early Aryan types are Russians, Romanians and North Caucasians, all due to Scythian influence.

[aherne]

i.e. The linguistic ancestors of the Scythians, Persians, Sogdians, Tajiks, Hindus and Tokharians. I would like to ask how much of this type survived in the classical period of these (before they were mostly absorbed by the natives), and what changes they went through in this time and along their respective migrations?

Not just... Old type was dominant among linguistic ancestors of: Indo-Iranians, Nessians, Greeks, Phrygians and Armenians. Because Balkan peninsula, Anatolia, Iranian plateau and India were densely inhabited, it failed to leave much of a mark, whereas among the Saka (Steppe Iranians: Cimmerians, Scythians, Sarmatians) it survived unaltered into classical times. The Saka themselves died out following Turkic migrations, leaving in Ossetians only a linguistic legacy.

[Matritensis]

Kurgan Types simply means Aryan types

I'm starting to get a bit tired of this Aryan thing already.Please define what Aryan means in anthropological terms,because you sound like you were born in the 1920's but you are probably not allowed to vote yet.Am I right?

[aherne]

I'm starting to get a bit tired of this Aryan thing already.Please define what Aryan means in anthropological terms,because you sound like you were born in the 1920's but you are probably not allowed to vote yet.Am I right?

I am using the right term:
- Aryan, since that was the name "Indo-Europeans" used for themselves
- Aryan, since this is "Indo-Europeans" racial type

[Peerkons]

- Aryan, since this is "Indo-Europeans" racial type

you make no sense

[Lithium]

I have talked to many Bulgarians who support the theory of our Aryan origin, but no one actually was able to describe their racial type. So I will be glad if someone make clear my question, here or in another special thread. Pictures will be the most helpful IMO

[aherne]

you make no sense

Perhaps you are too stupid to get it. Perhaps this will reach your mind:
Nordic race = "proto-Indo-European"
"proto-Indo-European" = Aryan
=>
Nordic = Aryan

Yes... six million innocent Jews were slaughtered by people who believed "proto-Indo-Europeans" called themselves Aryan and that they were originally "Nordic" Never again!!!

[aherne]

I have talked to many Bulgarians who support the theory of our Aryan origin, but no one actually was able to describe their racial type. So I will be glad if someone make clear my question, here or in another special thread. Pictures will be the most helpful IMO

I don't think you have a very clear image of what racial Aryans are. I've already provided pictures of how they looked like in this very thread. Bulgarians, like all Balkans people, do have an Aryan component, but it is very insignificant compared to types inherited from Neolithic (Mediterannean) and Upper Paleolithic (Cro-Magnid). It was largely brought by Slavs during the Dark Ages and shows gracilization (see my post for Corded Ware people).

[Agrippa]

http://media.gunaxin.com/a-tribute-t...lander-4/66246

Actually he was well chosen, because he would have really fit into the Kurgan standard-type variation!

It is the actor Clancy Brown:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erjMZ...eature=related

Typical skull:


Scythians:




Note the very prominent nose - often even more prominent and narrower than in some Corded Ware samples actually, that is really striking for that time in particular and points to a more Southern-warmer orientation, relations to other Aurignacoid forms. Yet they often very robust and had frequently broader face, like today's "Anglo-Saxon" variants or more robust Iranids f.e.