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    I would prefer to see non-religious/atheist solidarity

    I nowadays view religion as a cultural thing, but in the future no-one is seriously going to believe in a god. Just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teyrn View Post
    Catholics have tried ecumenicism with mixed results, that's probably the best example of "Christianity solidarity" that I can provide.
    After "The Second Vatican Council" Catholic Church is weak and broken.


    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    but in the future no-one is seriously going to believe in a god. Just my opinion.
    I don't agree with you, near future belong to islamic religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I would prefer to see non-religious/atheist solidarity

    I nowadays view religion as a cultural thing, but in the future no-one is seriously going to believe in a god. Just my opinion.
    Religion is often simply a body of cultural tradition and custom that people robotically perform and any religious doctrines they might profess they're just, ahem, copypasta-ing: "I believe because cleric such-and-such wrote about this-and-that" or the usual "It's in the Bible so it has to be true."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chąśnik View Post
    After "The Second Vatican Council" Catholic Church are weak and broken.
    I've seen some Catholics online griping about the Church being neutered after the Vatican Councils, veddy true.

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    I also think religion is mostly cultural with exceptions*, so thats the reason why there isnt solidarity because christians are from different cultural backgrounds

    *for some its spiritual and they might feel spirituall/religious "kinship" with other christians from other cultural backgrounds solely based on the same faith, so they might show themselfes solidaric.... but this is a minority of people, doesnt work on large scale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teyrn View Post
    I've seen some Catholics online griping about the Church being neutered after the Vatican Councils, veddy true.
    Yeah, after "Second Vatican Council" Catholic Church is infantile, politically correct and pacifist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosnian View Post
    because of the concept of "ummah" in islam,christianity has no such thing
    That is indeed true, for example you can see cooperation between Islamic sects that might oppose each other in doctrine for example Sunni and Shia. It comes to the point that Islam has the concept of Ummah, and this can be seen from Tatarstan to the regions of Southern Russia and Middle East/North Africa and to Indonesia. Despite being from different regions, ethnic and cultural groups, they are united by the sense of one generalized culture that can be throughout these regions and this is due to their Islamic faith. Christianity never had this, as well it never imposed a generalized culture like that of Islam to the people who adopted it. Well a Chechen and Indonesian might feel linked to each other in the generalized terms, this can't be said about a Catholic German and a Catholic Filipino.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chąśnik View Post
    Yeah, After "Second Vatican Council" Catholic Church is infantile, politically correct and pacifist.
    In the U.S. the Church is usually aligned with the leftists. Spreading the good news, one illegal immigrant at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chąśnik View Post
    I don't agree with you, near future belong to islamic religion.
    I don't think so. As people become more wealthy and prosperous, religion becomes less important to them. This will be the case everywhere in the world, without exception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I don't think so. As people become more wealthy and prosperous, religion becomes less important to them. This will be the case everywhere in the world, without exception.
    Until now, there is no tendancy towards this direction.
    The 3rd generation muslims in Europa are more inclined to their faith
    than their parents.
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