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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I don't think so. As people become more wealthy and prosperous, religion becomes less important to them. This will be the case everywhere in the world, without exception.
    But is this realy going to happen in our lifetime? All I see now in eastern Europe (and probably other parts of the globe too) are ever growing numbers of unemployment, and a rise of poverty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I don't think so. As people become more wealthy and prosperous, religion becomes less important to them. This will be the case everywhere in the world, without exception.
    Muslims from rich Arab Emirates or Qatar are much more religious than poor muslims form central asian countries.

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    The existence of different Christian denominations has proven to be extremely divisive, which is unfortunate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PetiteParisienne View Post
    The existence of different Christian denominations has proven to be extremely divisive, which is unfortunate.
    It's been that way since Day One, nothing new under the sun with the Christians. The different little Christian groups got swept up by the Catholics as "heretics" (like the Arians) and, after the Protestant Reformation, the trend of began again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetiteParisienne View Post
    The existence of different Christian denominations has proven to be extremely divisive, which is unfortunate.
    Well Islam has many sects within it as well. Some differ so much from the doctrine, that they are pushed aside. However what makes Islam seem more united than Christianity despite it's large differences in the secst is the generalized framework that's both cultural and spiritual that spans from Tatarstan, Southern Russia to Middle East/North Africa and to SouthEast Asia. Christianity does not, even with one sect such as Catholicism there is no feeling of this generalized element, and hence why German Catholic will not feel affinity to other Catholics. However there has been disunity among the Muslims for sometime but it can't last long because of the generalized framework that has been made it applicable to every sect within it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CircassianWine View Post
    Islam seem more united than Christianity despite it's large differences in the secst is the generalized framework that's both cultural and spiritual that spans from Tatarstan, Southern Russia to Middle East/North Africa and to SouthEast Asia.
    I noticed that Islam is very popular with nomadic nations while christianity was popular among sedentary communites. Maybe Islam is more attractive to nomads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teyrn View Post
    Catholics have tried ecumenicism with mixed results, that's probably the best example of "Christianity solidarity" that I can provide.
    See the First Crusade, the Holy League at Lepanto, and the Holy League in the Great Turkish War. Compare them to the clusterfuck of disunity that existed in their pagan predecessors. The very idea of Christendom instilled unity and built Europe as we know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe McCarthy View Post
    See the First Crusade, the Holy League at Lepanto, and the Holy League in the Great Turkish War. Compare them to the clusterfuck of disunity that existed in their pagan predecessors. The very idea of Christendom instilled unity and built Europe as we know it.
    The idea of Christendom is largely a product of the Catholic Church, which is a spent force outside of the traditionalists (re: minority). But Christendom itself is just a variation of a pre-existent concept: the imperium.

    ..Christendom was all but conterminous with the Roman Empire..

    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03699b.htm

    OH YEAH???

    Earthly or divine imperium, Christians just purloined the many already well-developed ideas from their pagan ancestors and then had, and still have, the gall to claim to be the sole possessors of truth, justice, etc. in the world.

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    Christian solidarity is good, but to some extent. I will have much in common with a Christian than a person of another religion, of course, but at the same time even Christian branches and ways of practices differ based on the cultural heritage of the particular ethnic group. While I can feel closer to any Orthodox or Catholic Christian practice, I can't say the same about many churches in the USA for example or in Africa in terms of ways of practice, Christian heritage, doctrine. For example while many black people will express their faith by jumping and singing hip-hop in a random building, I will need an ancient beautiful Armenian church, angelic singing, a mass with all its attributes that have history and make me feel more Armenian, not only Christian

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    would you say divisions are greater in Christianity or in Islam? Just look at those wars where Christians were killing Christians over doctrine differences.

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