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    I don't know if it's possible for me to get down to low bodyfat without looking like a stick. I want to be lean but have enough muscle left over at the end of it. Therefore testosterone sounds good but Ive heard that it has mental/physical side effects. I don't want anything too extreme, just like 5 lbs extra muscle maybe. Can it be done easily?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akira View Post
    I don't know if it's possible for me to get down to low bodyfat without looking like a stick. I want to be lean but have enough muscle left over at the end of it. Therefore testosterone sounds good but Ive heard that it has mental/physical side effects. I don't want anything too extreme, just like 5 lbs extra muscle maybe. Can it be done easily?
    Dianabol + Winstrol sounds better to me I personally don't do steroids , though, I did do steroids once in my early twenties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    Dianabol + Winstrol sounds better to me I personally don't do steroids , though, I did do steroids once in my early twenties.
    What are the side effects? How much and where to get it?

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    No. It isn't. I lift weights regularly and you'll look better than 95% of people at 12-15% bodyfat. Getting into the single digits starts showing too much vascularity imo and that level of cutting long term is not healthy. As long as you eat at only a slight deficit (weekly) and keep lifting, your body won't cannibalize early as much muscle tissue first vs. your fat. It prioritizes sending to the chopping block whatever it isn't using. Humans are very efficient this way.

    Plus roids don't simply melt fat. You still need to put in diet and iron work. It isn't a magical needle that allows for +2 vanilla smoothies a day guilt-free. I've never done roids, so full disclosure I can't say from personal experience how they would affect my muscles but I'm quite happy with what I can do natty, and highly suggest that you believe in your body's own capabilities and skill by giving it a fair chance to show you what it's got before resorting to drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turul Karom View Post
    No. It isn't. I lift weights regularly and you'll look better than 95% of people at 12-15% bodyfat. Getting into the single digits starts showing too much vascularity imo and that level of cutting long term is not healthy. As long as you eat at only a slight deficit (weekly) and keep lifting, your body won't cannibalize early as much muscle tissue first vs. your fat. It prioritizes sending to the chopping block whatever it isn't using. Humans are very efficient this way.

    Plus roids don't simply melt fat. You still need to put in diet and iron work. It isn't a magical needle that allows for +2 vanilla smoothies a day guilt-free. I've never done roids, so full disclosure I can't say from personal experience how they would affect my muscles but I'm quite happy with what I can do natty, and highly suggest that you believe in your body's own capabilities and skill by giving it a fair chance to show you what it's got before resorting to drugs.
    Due to my racial genetics, even getting to 12-15% is a steep climb. I don't expect to go into single digits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akira View Post
    Due to my racial genetics, even getting to 12-15% is a steep climb. I don't expect to go into single digits.
    What are you talking about? I've personally seen literally every racial group able to not look like a stick or a blimp in the gym. 12-15% is possible not only to achieve but to maintain through the year. If you have questions about programs or eating or whatever you can just PM me as not to clog your thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akira View Post
    What are the side effects? How much and where to get it?
    I got it from some high school jock like over 20 years ago. Some commerccial gym locker rooms would be the place to ask but you have to be careful about counterfeits. The darknet with a P.O. Box drop off is probably the best bet paying with bitcoin.

    I don't take steroids. I had a genetic sports analysis done at https://sequencing.com/ and it said I am best at powerlifting so that is what I do. I have no time for pansy stuff like worrying how I look exactly when I am lifting extremely heavy weight.

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    Oh brother. This sounds like a Mortimer/Richmondbread type of excuse.
    Quote Originally Posted by Akira View Post
    Due to my racial genetics, even getting to 12-15% is a steep climb. I don't expect to go into single digits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westbrook View Post
    Oh brother. This sounds like a Mortimer/Richmondbread type of excuse.
    To be fair, I am addicted to sugar like those two(I assume they are). But I don't overeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akira View Post
    To be fair, I am addicted to sugar like those two(I assume they are). But I don't overeat.
    Everyone is a "sugar addict". Your body literally craves carbs as its preferred fuel choice.

    The difference is you are using too much jet fuel (refined carbs) and not enough slow-burning logs (unrefined carbs).

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