Bosnian genocide

[Rron]

I asked what is the point in this thread because there are two sides to every conflict and you have to get to the root of the problem. My point is why did Bosnia get ''ethnically cleansed by the Serbians'' to begin with...I'll tell you why, it's because of you!

So ''Bosnia was ethnically cleansed because of us'' , spare us please im off of this discussion with you .

[Onur]

That is human nature!Killing the Bosnian Muslims as you say meant as kind of revenge toward Ottomans some kind of modern Crusade and they thought no one in Europe would care since they are firstly Muslims latter human beings.This kind of extreme viewpoint comes from the influence of their Orthodox Church,that is why secularization of institutions is very important for a modern society.

100% agree.

This is about the false indoctrination of their church and state. Did you know that the Serbs still mourns for the people in memorial who have died in a battle they had lost vs Turks? The battle of Kosovo in the year of 1389!!!. They pray for their Prince and I think they honor him as a Saint just because he supposedly killed the Turkish sultan. They do nationwide memorial ceremonies for it every year. I saw it on the tv news.

I mean, this is madness. Why would anyone with a sane mind mourns for something happened ~650 years ago? This is not about history or religion, this is about keeping the hate alive inside the people`s minds. This is just politics.

Number two Before the Ottoman Empire there was no problem between Serbians and Bosnians

This is not that true.

Bosnians were Bogomils before Turks gone there. They were constantly being massacred by the catholics from north and orthodoxs from east/west/south. When Turkish reign started in there, their persecution is completely stopped because Ottoman authority never allows such a thing to occur in their lands. This is exactly why Bosnians willingly and quickly converted to islam en masse. Their prominent Bogomil leader has choosen islam first and called all the Bogomils to accept islam and they did so. There are documents and pictures about this event.

Already, the concept of Jesus in Bogomilism and islam was quite same. Both considered Jesus as a prophet and a human, not divine being.

[Geronimo]

This thread needs Guapo I wonder on who's side Mary will be ?

[Mary]

1) Srebrenica was supposed to be a "safe area" for civilians. The Muslim troops would attack Serb villages and kill Serb civilians and then retreat back into the "safe area".

2) When the Serbs showed up the Muslims threw away their uniforms and hid behind the Dutch.

3) The Serbs bussed out Muslim women and children at their own expense and despite that they were low on fuel.

[Hurrem sultana]

[Hurrem sultana]

a very interesting documentary from bbc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id4wtBJHMdU

[Kanuni]

This is not that true.

Bosnians were Bogomils before Turks gone there. They were constantly being massacred by the catholics from north and orthodoxs from east/west/south. When Turkish reign started in there, their persecution is completely stopped because Ottoman authority never allows such a thing to occur in their lands. This is exactly why Bosnians willingly and quickly converted to islam en masse. Their prominent Bogomil leader has choosen islam first and called all the Bogomils to accept islam and they did so. There are documents and pictures about this event.

Already, the concept of Jesus in Bogomilism and islam was quite same. Both considered Jesus as a prophet and a human, not divine being.

Good point, on the other hand we have the Native Anatolians who holded heretic Orthodox beliefs and were persecuted by the Byzantines, the Ottomans succeeded to incorporate and assimilate them in numbers because they were more tolerant be it politically motivated or whatever.

One of the reasons why many of this people adopted Islam was that this religion was not alien to their previous beliefs.

Sorry for the offtopic.

[brunette]

Bosnians and Serbs are of the same blood, but often had different loyalties. I think it's important to look at the conflict between Bosniaks and Serbs from every generation within the century and beyond, because each generation was traumatized and became thirsty for blood. The Serbian population had been decimated in the first world war, before that there were Balkan wars, before that bloody revolts etc. The Fascist backed Croats and Bosniaks took part in massacres of Serbs during WW2, the Serbs were systematically exterminated. When nationalism came back to Yugoslavia in the 90's, you saw the old fears/hatreds come back.

For a Turk to come on this thread to stir shit only adds insult to injury, Turks only divided their subjects so as to make us less threatening.

Wounds eventually heal and hopefully the new generations will not have to be tormented by war so they can recognize how similar, rather than different they are.

You mean the Handzar or Tito? Lol, I heard the Serbians weren't even allowed to return back to Kosovo because Tito didn't want any tension. It's weird that any Eastern Europeans or Southern Europeans would engage in any sort of Nazi doctrine to begin with.

[Loki]

I am quite disgusted that the Dutch troops did not get NATO support earlier, and sufficiently. This is inexcusable.

[brunette]

The Turkish boy..He's a Macedonian so I go easy on him.