Bosnian genocide

[Hurrem sultana]

May souls of all children who perished in Srebrenica Genocide rest in peace:

BEGIĆ BEGO MEHMEDALIJA 04.01.1989

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EFENDIĆ MELIHA ŠEVKO 2803987188122 28.03.1987

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TURKOVIĆ ADMIN ADEM 30.09.1981

VARNICA MEHMED ASIM 207981183731 02.07.1981

ALIĆ OSMAN BAJRO 805981774556 08.05.1981

DERVIŠEVIĆ SENUDIN BEKIR 14.05.1981

OMEROVIĆ ADIL BEHADIL 10.05.1981

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MEMIĆ AVDIJA EMIN 01.01.1981

SMAJLOVIĆ (RAŠID) HAJRO 25. 3. 1980

BEGANOVIĆ SENAD RAMO 2412980000000 24.12.1980

PLANIĆ EŠEF OSMAN 29.12.1980

MANDŽIĆ EMIR AHMET 1410980000000 14.10.1980

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SULJIĆ DAHMO ĆAMIL 710980183138 07.10.1980

ADEMOVIĆ FATMIR DŽEMAL 1709980181351 17.09.1980

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ORIĆ AVDIJA OMER 1606980188123 16.06.1980

SALČINOVIĆ ELVIR TURABIJA 2306980183156 23.06.1980

SELIMOVIĆ IBRAHIM REDŽO 2606980183745 26.06.1980

AVDIĆ ADMIR RAMO 3105980774519 31.05.1980

DERVIŠEVIĆ BEHRUDIN BEKIR 2105980791010 21.05.1980

many more here:http://www.srebrenica-genocide.blogs...-genocide.html

[brunette]

You have to in any conflict tell the full story there's two sides to every story. The point is why did the Serbians and Bosnians fight to begin, with lets assume that the Serbians were not Orthodox and the Bosnians were not Muslim.

Maybe we should just get rid of religion altogether. It would stop alot of this and Zionism too, that'll do.

[Grizzly]

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I still cannot believe how come these 1000s of people stood still and waited for the Serbs to kill them all one by one for days. It was obvious why Mladic took over Srebrenica from pathetic UN soldiers. So, rather than waiting to die like a sheep, i don't understand why they didn't resist. Probably thats why Mladic choose these Bosnian weaklings to relieve his anger of Turks upon them and his so-called revenge for the events in 14th century;
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If Mladic would really be a hero as some Serbs claims so, then he would had deal with the real Turks, with us, not with the aged Bosnian peasants.

Your a fucking idiot. The bosnians in the town gave up their weapons due a deal that the UN peace keepers signed with the Serbs making the town a "safe haven." The serbs blockaded the town and the town basically starved and rotted. The serbs had the superior military force and enclosed the town. It wasn't like the Serbs had 5 soldiers blockading the town, they had a army.. Also, what do you want the bosnians to fight back with? Sticks? Rocks?

But then again you are a mongrel turk

[The Lawspeaker]

It obvious that you have no idea what happened in srebrenica, Mary the troll christian in burqa!!

Srebrenica was a security zone covered by only Dutch battalion in the name of UN. Also it was a zone under blockade by the Serbs. So people had no guns and any weapon. When Serbian soldiers tried to invade it, Dutch soldiers just surrendered them and Serbs taken them as a hostage.

Serbs had a deal with the Dutch commander to hand over Srebrenica for the return of Dutch hostages and they agreed by having a champagne;

You can see Ratko Mladic and Dutch commander here

Then Serbs gathered every men above 14 years of age in town and killed them all in just 4 days, threw their bodies in to the pits.

Also it wasn't the Bosnians who started the war. Actually i cant even call that a war because Bosnians had no proper army or ammunition but on the other hand, Serbs had it all as well as their Greek Orthodox Mujaheddins support.

Karremans, the tall man in the middle, nipping his glass, had only one barely equipped battalion - having some 450 men. Only some machineguns. their own rifles and a couple of armoured cars. That was all.

[Mary]

It obvious that you have no idea what happened in srebrenica, Mary the troll christian in burqa!!

Srebrenica was a security zone covered by only Dutch battalion in the name of UN. Also it was a zone under blockade by the Serbs. So people had no guns and any weapon. When Serbian soldiers tried to invade it, Dutch soldiers just surrendered them and Serbs taken them as a hostage.

Serbs had a deal with the Dutch commander to hand over Srebrenica for the return of Dutch hostages and they agreed by having a champagne;

You can see Ratko Mladic and Dutch commander here

Then Serbs gathered every men above 14 years of age in town and killed them all in just 4 days, threw their bodies in to the pits.

Also it wasn't the Bosnians who started the war. Actually i cant even call that a war because Bosnians had no proper army or ammunition but on the other hand, Serbs had it all as well as their Greek Orthodox Mujaheddins support.

1) Read what was written by the Dutch commander on site. The Muslims had plenty of weapons. They just chose not to fight.

2) The men in Srebrenica committed atrocities against Serb civilians. Since they didn't want to stand for it, it was necessary to enact a collective punishment.

3) The Bosnians seceded from Yugoslavia, but they didn't want to allow the Bosnian Serbs to secede from Bosnia. If they would have allowed the Serbs to decided for themselves, in accordance with the principle of national self-determination, there wouldn't have been a war in the first place.

4) There were about 100 Greeks in Bosnia. The Muslims got lots of support from Saudi, Iran (probably Turkey too) and the West.

[The Journeyman]

This thread has attracted negative energy. Keep on hating then.

[Rron]

BOSNIAN GENOCIDE: Remembering Serbian-run concentration camps in Bosnia, where Bosniaks (Muslims) and Croats (Catholics) were detained, tortured, and killed:




HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH / Bosnia-Herzegovina / The Unindicted: Reaping the Rewards of "Ethnic Cleansing" / January 1997 Vol. 9, No. 1 (D)


Two of the concentration camps, Omarska and Keraterm, were places where killings, torture, and brutal interrogations were carried out. The third, Trnopolje, had another purpose; it functioned as a staging area for massive deportations of mostly women, children, and elderly men, and killings and rapes also occurred there. The fourth, Manjaca, was referred to by the Bosnian Serbs as a 'prisoner of war camp,' although most if not all detainees were civilians... The Commission of Experts determined that the systematic destruction of the Bosniak community in the Prijedor area met the definition of genocide.






The Prijedor opstina, or administrative district, includes at least seventy-one smaller towns and villages.(1) The names of some are now familiar due to the atrocities which took place there; among them are Kozarac, Omarska, and Trnopolje. While the towns and villages within the wider Prijedor district have their own officials, they are governed by the opstina. Thus, the Prijedor authorities wield influence over a considerable area. Prijedor was considered a strategically important town by the Bosnian Serbs, who wanted to create a corridor between Serbia proper and the Croatian Krajina, which was until 1995 controlled by rebel Serbs in Croatia. As early as 1991, the Serbs organized a Serb-only alternative administration in Opstina Prijedor, under the guidance of a central administration in Banja Luka. The designated Serb "mayor" was Milomir Stakic, a medical doctor who functioned as deputy mayor under the duly elected Bosniak mayor of the town, Muhamed Cehajic.


After the Serbs took power on April 30, 1992, they opened at least four detention camps in the Prijedor opstina. Two of the concentration camps, Omarska and Keraterm, were places where killings, torture, and brutal interrogations were carried out. The third, Trnopolje, had another purpose; it functioned as a staging area for massive deportations of mostly women, children, and elderly men, and killings and rapes (2) also occurred there. The fourth, Manjaca, was referred to by the Bosnian Serbs as a "prisoner of war camp," although most if not all detainees were civilians.(3)

"Despite the absence of a real non-Serbian threat, the main objective of the concentration camps, especially Omarska but also Keraterm, seems to have been to eliminate the non-Serb leadership," the U.N. Commission of Experts found. "From the time when the Serbs took power in the district of Prijedor, non-Serbs in reality became outlaws. At times, non-Serbs were instructed to wear white arm bands to identify themselves...According to Serbianregulations, those leaving the district had to sign over their property rights and accept never to return, being told their names would simultaneously be deleted from the census." (4)

According to Ed Vulliamy (5), the first journalist to report from the Omarska camp, "Omarska was a monstrosity: an inferno of murder, torture and rape. It was a stain upon our century." (6)


During the period when many persons were interned in the concentration camps, family members sometimes tried to obtain information from the police station in town. "Instead of receiving information concerning the whereabouts of their family members, they were in some cases offered the alternative of paying for an "exit visa" for the family at large.(7) In order to receive an "exit visa," sums of money had to be paid to various municipal authorities and to the local "Red Cross," run by the Bosnian Serb authorities, and real property had to be signed over to the municipality.

The Commission of Experts determined that the systematic destruction of the Bosniak community in the Prijedor area met the definition of genocide. (8)

The persecution of non-Serbs in Prijedor did not ease after international pressure succeeded in forcing the Bosnian Serbs to close the concentration camps in 1992, as evidenced by the ICRC's attempt to evacuate all remaining non-Serbs from Opstina Prijedor in March 1994. (9)


As documented by Human Rights Watch/Helsinki, a final wave of mass expulsions of non-Serbs from Prijedor and many other towns in Serb-controlled territory occurred in September and October 1995, when the infamous Zeljko "Arkan" Raznatovic joined local forces to conduct "ethnic cleansing" operations. (10) Forced expulsions in Prijedor began on October 5 during which those expelled were again forced to finance their own "ethnic cleansing" by paying transportation fees to the local "Red Cross" and were harassed, robbed, and threatened while waiting for the buses which would later dump them at the confrontation line. (11)

One woman told Human Rights Watch/Helsinki during a 1995 investigation of the expulsions, "All the Muslims from the city [Prijedor] were expelled. We went to the [local] Red Cross, gave them seventy DM for each family member and got on the buses. . .There were thirteen buses in the convoy leaving from Prijedor for Teslic. Men were taken off my bus. . . My husband was taken off the bus in Blatnica, a Serbian village in the woods." She had not seen her husband since. (12)


Many draft-age males were separated from their families during round-ups in other Bosnian Serb-controlled areas, and transferred to Prijedor, where they were interned at the "Autoprevoz" facility or other local detention centers. Following the official closing of the camps in 1992, and until the present, rumors have abounded about the reopening of the Omarska, Manjaca and Keraterm camps, but Human Rights Watch/Helsinki has been unable to confirm them. Prisoners released from "Autoprevoz" in an exchange told Human Rights Watch/Helsinki that when the International Committee of the Red Cross tried to visit them, they were moved by bus onto the Kozara mountain and hidden until the visitors had gone away. (13)

Oppression of the now-minority Bosniak and Bosnian Croat populations throughout Republika Srpska continues today through restrictions on freedom of movement; evictions and expulsions; arbitrary arrest and detention; ethnically motivated harassment and direct physical attack; denial of employment, humanitarian assistance, medical care, and social insurance; discrimination in access to education; and restrictions on religious freedom.



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(1) According to the 1991 census, Opstina (administrative district) Prijedor had a total population of 112,470 people, of whom 44 percent were Muslims, 42.5 percent Serbs, 5.6 percent Croats, 5.7 percent "Yugoslavs," and 2.2 percent others (Ukrainians, Russians, and Italians). In April 1992, the total population was approximately 120,000 people, augmented, inter alia, by an influx of people who had fled the destruction of their villages in the west of Opstina Prijedor. United Nations, Final Report of the United Nations Commission of Experts, established pursuant to Security Council resolution 780, (New York: United Nations, 1992), S/1994674/Add.2 (Vol.), December 28, 1994, Annex V, Part 2, Section II, Subsection B.


(2) The U.N. Commission of Experts and many journalists and witnesses have reported extensively on the rape of women by Bosnian Serb forces. The commission, which conducted a special investigation of rape during the war, concluded: "Rape is prevalent in the camps. . .Captors have killed women who resisted being raped, often in front of other prisoners. Rapes were also committed in the presence of other prisoners. Women are frequently selected at random during the night. These rapes are done in a way that instills terror in the women prisoner population. The commission has information indicating that girls as young as seven years old and women as old as sixty-five have been raped while in captivity.. .Mothers of young children are often raped in front of their children and are threatened with the death of their children if they do not submit to being raped. Sometimes young women are separated from older women and taken to separate camps where they are raped several times a day, for many days, often by more than one man. Many of these women disappear, or after they have been raped and brutalized to the point where they are traumatized, they are returned to the camps and are replaced by other young women. There have also been instances of sexual abuse of men as well as castration and mutilation of male sexual organs. Final Report of the United Nations Commission of Experts, Annex V, Part 2, Section IV.

(3) As of June 23, 1993, according to the United Nations Commission of Experts, which conducted an extensive review of war crimes committed in Prijedor municipality, the total number of killed and deported persons was 52,811 (including limited numbers of refugees and people missing). Camps located in or around Prijedor included Omarska, Manjaca, Keraterm, and Trnopolje. See Final Report of the United Nations Commission of Experts, for a detailed description of events around Prijedor in 1992 and throughout the war.


(4) Final Report of the United Nations Commission of Experts, Annex V, Part 2, Section IV.


(5) Ed Vulliamy of The Guardian and Roy Gutman of Newsday were among the first to uncover and gain access to the concentration camps in the Prijedor area in 1992. Vulliamy accompanied non-Serbs as they were being "ethnically cleansed" from the territory, posing as a deaf mute. The two conducted extensive interviews over many months with Bosnian Serb officials, representatives of international organizations including the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), and with survivors of the camps. Roy Gutman was awarded the Pulitzer Prize for his work, and Vulliamy has also been honored. Both Gutman's and Vulliamy's findings have been utilized in war crimes investigations by the ICTY.


(6) Ed Vulliamy, "Yugoslavia: Horror Hidden Beneath Ice and Lies", The Guardian, London, February 19, 1996, p. 9.


(7) Final Report of the U.N. Commission of Experts, Annex V, Part 2, Section IX, Subsection D.


(8) Ibid.


(9) The ICRC's plans to evacuate all non-Serb residents of the town was abandoned after Karadzic refused to grant safe passage for convoys out.


(10) A person who in 1994 left Prijedor told Human Rights Watch/Helsinki that "I hid for two years. People were being killed on the road and I wouldn't have been caught dead walking outside. I stayed in my house from the day I was released from the Keraterm concentration camp on August 13, 1992 until I came here [to Bosnian government-controlled territory] on Saturday [September 17, 1994]. See Human Rights Watch/Helsinki report, "Bosnia-Hercegovina: "Ethnic Cleansing" Continues in Northern Bosnia,"A Human Rights Watch Short Report, vol. 6, no. 16, November 1994. Numerous similar stories have been related to Human Rights Watch/Helsinki representatives.


(11) Ibid.


(12) Ibid.


(13) The information on the expulsion of non-Serbs from Prijedor comes in part from a report of a human rights fact-finding mission which included staff from UNPF-HQ, United Nations Protection Force (UNPROFOR), and the U.N. Center for Human Rights. The report is titled "Human Rights Abuses in Northwestern Bosnia: Report on Forced Expulsions from 5-12 October 1995." For a detailed description of how the forced expulsions were conducted, see Human Rights Watch/Helsinki's report titled "Northwestern Bosnia: Human Rights Abuses during a Cease-Fire and Peace Negotiations," Vol. 8, No. 1 (D), February 1996.


SREBRENICA GENOCIDE IS NOT A MATTER OF ANYBODY'S OPINION; IT'S A JUDICIAL FACT RECOGNIZED FIRST BY THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL TRIBUNAL FOR THE FORMER YUGOSLAVIA AND SUBSEQUENTLY BY THE INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE.

http://srebrenica-genocide.blogspot....in-bosnia.html

[Onur]

Bosnians and Serbs are of the same blood, but had different loyalties. I think it's important to look at the conflict between Bosniaks and Serbs from every generation within the century and beyond, because each generation was traumatized and became thirsty for blood.

Yes, Bosnians, Serbs and Croatians are of same blood but it`s you who keep calling them as "Turks" for centuries. You are the one who keep alienating them from the society.

For a Turk to come on this thread to stir shit only adds insult to injury, Turks only divided their subjects so as to make us less threatening.

Thats bullshit.

Turkish rule only united you not divided. Like i said, you were constantly killing each other before Turks came because Bosnians was Bogomils, Serbs was orthodox and Croats was catholics. Your conflicts totally ended with Turkish rule and that was the case for centuries. Even your Serbian church has been re-established with the help of muslim Bosnian Sokolovic pasha in 16th century despite the fierce protestation of Istanbul patriarchy at that time. All in all, you had ZERO conflict during the Turkish reign.

After the Turkish reign, you just returned to your usual massacres between each other. You have been divided during Serbian rule and you still curse each other today.

[The Lawspeaker]

The attack never took place. It had to be cancelled when Serbian forces threatened the execution of 50 members of Dutchbat III seized as hostages. Mladić's column then took the town July 11, 1995, causing the displacement of many of the city's inhabitants. About 15,000 displaced persons undertook the flight towards Tuzla on foot, but the majority looked for protection from the UN blue helmets in Potocari. During the flight of the column towards Tuzla, Dutch soldier Raviv van Rensen was attacked by the Bosnian Serbs and died.

Dutchbat wiki.

This Dutch site says that he wasn't killed by Serbs but by Muddjahedeen:

Vijftien jaar geleden, op 8 juli 1995, werd soldaat der eerste klasse Raviv van Renssen in Bosnië gedood. Een gerichte granaatworp van een moslimstrijder werd de toen 25-jarige Van Renssen, fataal. De toenmalige minister van Defensie Joris Voorhoeve noemde Raviv van Renssen "een vredesoldaat in de ware betekenis van het woord (-) die het hoogste offer (heeft) gebracht".

De jonge militair was boordschutter van een pantservoertuig (YPR) dat onder vuur kwam te liggen van de mujahedin (moslimstrijders) die van soldaat Van Renssen en zijn collega's eisten dat die aan hun kant de strijd zouden aanbinden tegen de Serviërs. Toen de Nederlandse militairen daar geen gehoor aan gaven openden de mujahedin het vuur op de Nederlanders.

More about the killed Dutch UN-soldier (in Dutch).

[Hurrem sultana]

We have to keep in mind,not only muslims were the victims,catholics too.2 years ago i was in Potocari when this guy was buried,he was croatian catholic.Rudolf Hren