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Thread: David Cameron knows the drug laws aren't working; his failure to change them is simple cowardice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Batavi View Post
    I actually don't think you're Russian. You were Romanian one week ago.

    Russia still has very much the same drug laws as in the USSR.. and how did that go with the supply of heroin ? Ah yes.. look at your addiction figures and don't forget about counting in the 1990s as well. But with heroin you were probably correct and cocaine too as the supply wasn't there before the 1960s (coming in from South-East Asia and Latin America).
    I am ethnically Russian. But I'm culturally Rumanian. I've lived in both cultures and I speak both languages.

    In Russia people live collectively. A bit like an extended family. And people in the collective take care of each other. You just need to look at the guy who is not part of any collective and arrest him, because he will be the one up to no good.

    After the fall of the USSR there was a big drug problem. And it shows how destructive drugs are. And how much you need a totalitarian system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mary View Post
    I am ethnically Russian. But I'm culturally Rumanian.
    Identity crisis...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mary View Post
    In Russia people live collectively. A bit like an extended family. And people in the collective take care of each other. You just need to look at the guy who is not part of any collective and arrest him, because he will be the one up to no good.
    That's not Russian culture but communist culture. Big difference between the two.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mary View Post
    After the fall of the USSR there was a big drug problem. And it shows how destructive drugs are.
    No.. it shows how dangerous drugs can be without proper policies which actually go for:

    1) Quality control.
    2) Age control.
    3) Licenses for selling.
    4) Medical care for addicts.
    5) Needle-sharing points.


    And when it comes to addiction. Anything can be an addiction. Even sport, the internet or sex with just as annoying social repercussions.



    Wake up and smell the coffee.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Batavi View Post
    Bollocks. Most people trading in drugs are not the local druggies. They rarely even use it but just sell it to small-time dealers to make profits.

    The Native Americans didn't know alcohol. So that one wouldn't go. O.K.. let me inform you of the history of drug use because you really don't seem to understand it.

    Here is the big bang:

    Drug laws are relatively new. Before the 1900s cocaine and heroine were actually used as licensed medicines and until World War II there was an actual Dutch cocaine factory.

    It was just a medicine and trade commodity like any other. The problems started when it was banned. Let's look at the United States to see how that went with alcohol.
    1) Everyone knows who the people that take drugs are. You start with them and move up the chain.

    2) Look up what happened to Native Americans when Whites gave them alcohol. Report back what you find.

    3) That's because people didn't know how bad drugs were back then. And it was restricted to rich people. Look at what crack did to Black community instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Batavi View Post
    Identity crisis...
    Dual identities.

    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Batavi View Post
    That's not Russian culture but communist culture. Big difference between the two.
    Communist culture is an extension of Russian culture.

    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Batavi View Post
    No.. it shows how dangerous drugs can be without proper policies which actually go for:

    1) Quality control.
    2) Age control.
    3) Licenses for selling.
    4) Medical care for addicts.
    5) Needle-sharing points.


    And when it comes to addiction. Anything can be an addiction. Even sport, the internet or sex with just as annoying social repercussions.
    If you give people drugs they will stoop caring about everything else. You will have a breakdown of society. We don't need drugs. They don't bring anything good with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mary View Post
    1) Everyone know who the people who take drugs are. You start with them and move up the chain.
    That's rubbish.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mary View Post
    2) Look up what happened to Native Americans when Whites gave them alcohol. Report back what you find.
    I don't have to look it up. I know what happened. But Native Americans have a genetic weakness to alcohol because of Asian genes. Russians have that too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mary View Post
    3) That's because people didn't know how bad drugs were back then. And it was restricted to rich people. Look at what crack did to Black community instead.
    So rich people can have it but no one else can ? Weird kind of justice there. No what happened with the Black community is that drugs were brought in quite deliberately in order to fuel the Contras in Nicaragua.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mary View Post
    Dual identities.
    So no identity.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mary View Post
    Communist culture is an extension of Russian culture.
    More Jewish culture since most communists of the first hour were Jews. It was a very scientifically engineered culture and completely unnatural.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mary View Post
    If you give people drugs they will stoop caring about everything else. You will have a breakdown of society. We don't need drugs. They don't bring anything good with them.
    Correction: they care about drugs because they will have to spend all their money to obtain them. Try the same with alcohol and cigarettes. We all know what happened in America during prohibition.



    Wake up and smell the coffee.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Batavi View Post


    I don't have to look it up. I know what happened. But Native Americans have a genetic weakness to alcohol because of Asian genes. Russians have that too.
    Plus some of them had had much harder drugs than alcohol wayyyy before. And they still remain legal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Batavi View Post
    That's rubbish.
    Ask a class of college kids if they know who takes drugs. I bet they do. Ask people at a work place, I'm sure they know too. You just get these people to inform on the druggies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Batavi View Post
    I don't have to look it up. I know what happened. But Native Americans have a genetic weakness to alcohol because of Asian genes. Russians have that too.
    The same way White people have a genetic weakness to cocaine. People who live where the coca plant grows naturally don't have addiction problems because they have a genetic tolerance. If you give this to White people, you get really bad consequences.

    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Batavi View Post
    So rich people can have it but no one else can ? Weird kind of justice there. No what happened with the Black community is that drugs were brought in quite deliberately in order to fuel the Contras in Nicaragua.
    I don't think rich people should have drugs either. But it limits the damage.

    Look at what happened to the Blacks. The same would happen to Whites if drugs were legalized.

    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Batavi View Post
    Correction: they care about drugs because they will have to spend all their money to obtain them. Try the same with alcohol and cigarettes. We all know what happened in America during prohibition.
    White people have a genetic and cultural tolerance for alcohol. They don't have that for other drugs.

    Not to mention that drugs have really bad consequences for the people that take them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamera View Post
    Plus some of them had had much harder drugs than alcohol wayyyy before. And they still remain legal.
    He had a genetic and cultural tolerance for it. Just like Europeans with alcohol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mary View Post
    Ask a class of college kids if they know who takes drugs. I bet they do. Ask people at a work place, I'm sure they know too. You just get these people to inform on the druggies.
    I am sure that you wouldn't even know in your own circle of friends who uses something. Trust me. I have been surprised before in my life.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mary View Post
    The same way White people have a genetic weakness to cocaine. People who live where the coca plant grows naturally don't have addiction problems because they have a genetic tolerance. If you give this to White people, you get really bad consequences.
    Evidence ?


    Quote Originally Posted by Mary View Post
    I don't think rich people should have drugs either. But it limits the damage.
    Weird kind of justice you've got there, Mary. Try again, please.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mary View Post
    Look at what happened to the Blacks. The same would happen to Whites if drugs were legalized.
    No it wouldn't. Look at cannabis in the Netherlands and compare it to America. No further questions.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mary View Post
    White people have a genetic and cultural tolerance for alcohol. They don't have that for other drugs.
    But white people, like other people, are no children and can make informed decisions for themselves. If you can't then you need to be put under someone's stewardship.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mary View Post
    Not to mention that drugs have really bad consequences for the people that take them.


    That has nothing to do with the drugs itself but with the chemicals that are in it. Read up on it, please.
    That's why synthetic drugs are a problem but natural drugs are not.. and you would have to look up for yourself what drugs are synthetic and which are not because I am tired of explaining it to you.



    Wake up and smell the coffee.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Batavi View Post
    I am sure that you wouldn't even know in your own circle of friends who uses something. Trust me. I have been surprised before in my life.
    Even if it doesn't show, people eventually talk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Batavi View Post
    Evidence ?
    Peru and Bolivia have much lower rates of drug abuse than they should have. While White countries have much higher rates. This show that there is a difference in tolerance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Batavi View Post
    No it wouldn't. Look at cannabis in the Netherlands and compare it to America. No further questions.
    And what has the Netherlands done recently? Moved to stop the drugging because it was causing social problems.

    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Batavi View Post
    But white people, like other people, are no children and can make informed decisions for themselves. If you can't then you need to be put under someone's stewardship.

    That has nothing to do with the drugs itself but with the chemicals that are in it. Read up on it, please.
    That's why synthetic drugs are a problem but natural drugs are not.. and you would have to look up for yourself what drugs are synthetic and which are not because I am tired of explaining it to you.
    No, people don't get to make informed decisions when it comes to drugs. Because there are areas where free choice is not an option. People cannot always handle the responsibility of free choices. So in the best interest of everybody, others need to make the decisions for them.

    Don't make excuses. This is the real life consequence of drugs. IN a free drug market, there will be much more of this, not less. Just like Americans are more fat when they can choose fast food, even though there are healthy alternatives. And if people can't handle sugar of caffeine, they definitely can't handle drugs.

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