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"Ay,кефиш ме щ'ти звънна"...Originally Posted by tu_veneno
"Човек дори и добре да живее умира и друг се ражда, но оставя това което е съградил."
You're just jealous of us.That's Swedes and Norwegians, and Swedes and Danes, and Swedes and Finns. Did you notice a common theme?
Hungary: Croatia & Poland
Germans: Austrians
For Romanians, I'm not really sure. Romanians don't really have any friends except for the Moldovans.
Last edited by Siegfried; 04-15-2012 at 08:43 PM.
Israel
Greece, Cyprus, Russia.
I said before, none.
That's curious because, the trend here is clear, they are really our closest relatives and relatives tend to develop close ties between each other (as long as there's no kisses on the mouth..) I have trouble to see things this way although I have numerous Spanish friends. We lived "back to back" for 50 years under dictatorial regimes and that takes a heavy toll. Dictators have this tendency to put themselves in the top of their toes and look at the others from above and we did that to each other. People that still live in the past kept that bitterness inside themselves.
Things really changed. More than 30% of Portuguese didn't mind to embark in an Iberian adventure that's a lot of people. Youngsters from both countries look at each other the very same way. I had no trouble in socialize in Spain, I really felt home there, didn't had to do the slightest effort to make friends, and I made a lot. Spaniards are great lovers of life and friendship as we are. I doubt that there’s another pair of countries with the same number of marriages among their citizens (and now I don’t care about kisses on the mouth).
On the other hand, both economies are very embedded most of EU discussions interest the same way to both countries and together we have the same votes as France and one more than England or Italy, so together we are a heavyweight, that means that we have to work together.
I’ll gladly open an exception for "Nuestros Hermanos"
Saludos.
Last edited by Catrau; 04-19-2012 at 10:06 PM.
^^^
I don't doubt what you say in terms of the general population, but politically they are some issues between Portugal and Spain. For one there's the situation of Olivença. Then there's the one where Spain doesn't respect Portugal's sovereignty over the Salvage Islands.
Until then the saying De Espanha, nem bom ventos nem bom casamentos still applies.
Fernando Pessoa
"O mar com fim será grego ou romano: O mar sem fim é português."
The Olivença thing was a bad move by the Spaniards but they were being pushed by the French and in the end they didn't want to lose their face and we haven't made the necessary effort to bring back Olivença, we were tired of war against the French and bloody Napoleon we had to lick our wounds instead of starting another war for a village. Nowadays we don't care about that anymore, it's the right time for the Oliventinos regain their past freely and without complexes and it seems that's what they are doing. On the other hand you should know that although we do not want it back, there are no frontier marks in that border, this means that "de juri" those lands aren't really Spanish. Do I want to start a discussion with Spain about that?? No.
In relation to the low level flights over the Salvage Islands (two tiny spots in the middle of the atlantic half way between Medeira and Canary Islands) I think they should haven't done it especially because it was a recurrent procedure once in a while, but as soon as that was herd in Madrid it stopped right away. I read that those flights were made by Air Force Academy cadets. That's not a reason for bitterness, especially because it wasn't a known procedure at the higher levels.
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