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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajeje Brazorf View Post
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    They are British islanders or from Ireland. They have light hair (usually red or light brown) and light blue/green eyes, plus the Hallstat celtic, they have more blonde hair than red.
    Celtic:
    https://uploadir.com/u/wlx9bneu
    Hallstatt:
    http://i.imgur.com/mq0QlvC.png
    Of course be celtic depends also on culture and history, not only on race.

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    Celts were essentially a Indo-European Steppe population that sprung forth in Central-Eastern Europe before they were pushed to Western Europe. Western Europeans before the coinciding Bronze age were genetically a pre-Indo-European population of native WHG and Neolithic farmer ancestry. So the Celtic tribes that mixed with these populations in this vicinity of Europe were eventually assimilated by other peoples as history played out. Thus, Celtic culture and the language were no more besides surviving in pockets on the British Isles and Brittany.
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    Celtic is a somewhat vague historical term to describe a wide array of different peoples, as well as their language group, and to a lesser extent, a shared culture among those peoples. In modern times it's useful for classifying the language family. I think the use of such historical cultural groupings to classify modern day cultures can be a bit complicated, even if there is a shared historical root and maybe some historical chain of causality linking ancient peoples to modern ones, things just change a damn lot over time. In the end people just end up adopting the customs that are more practical and make life more bearable, there is no emotionally charged romanticism that can resist that.

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    Celtic maps:






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    Modern genetic relatedness:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etain View Post
    How were they subhumans or totally eradicated? The ones in Gaul adopted Roman culture but were still genetically the same people.
    There's no evidence at all to suggest they were totally eradicated.
    Eredication means to lose your language and culture and Romans managed to genocide cells in large numbers by also genociding their culture and language.

    Albanians did not lose their language and culture even thought we were 20 times less in numbers than celts and we also were a leading faction in the roman empire with 35 illyrian-roman emperors.

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    When Diodoro Ciculus wrote about Celts it was Julius Ceasar campaigns against the Gauls. He only wrote about Gauls and were the Celts. So they are French.
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    All the people saying Celts no longer exist. The Irish are still classified as Celts today because what other group would they be associated with? What is the motive of people denying the Celticity of places like Ireland and Wales?

    Dictionary definition.

    NOUN

    1A member of a group of peoples inhabiting much of Europe and Asia Minor in pre-Roman times. Their culture developed in the late Bronze Age around the upper Danube, and reached its height in the La Tène culture (5th to 1st centuries BC) before being overrun by the Romans and various Germanic peoples.
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    1.1 A native of any of the modern nations or regions in which Celtic languages are (or were until recently) spoken; a person of Irish, Highland Scottish, Manx, Welsh, or Cornish descent.

    Celtic League definition of Celt:
    The only accurate way to define Celtic is by language and its attendant culture. A Celt is simply one who speaks, or is known to have spoken within the modern historical period, a Celtic language.
    https://www.celticleague.net/tag/pro...eth-mackinnon/

    Here an interesting article on why Galicia wasn't accepted as a Celtic nation and discussion on who they consider Celtic countries today.

    https://www.transceltic.com/pan-celt...ion-of-galicia

    Anyway people on here can say there are no Celts today but the truth of the matter is that people like Irish, Welsh, Scots and Bretons are still considered Celts. Argue about it all you like but you won't change this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    Also I hate to tell you that I am fully native Iberian and my Y-DNA peaks in freaking Ireland and Scotland. I must have gotten it by magic. Lets see which Y-DNA you will get when your results arrive Lets see if it is a Celtic haplogroup as well.
    Lmao. You poor Celts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    All the people saying Celts no longer exist. The Irish are still classified as Celts today because what other group would they be associated with? What is the motive of people denying the Celticity of places like Ireland and Wales?

    Dictionary definition.

    NOUN

    1A member of a group of peoples inhabiting much of Europe and Asia Minor in pre-Roman times. Their culture developed in the late Bronze Age around the upper Danube, and reached its height in the La Tène culture (5th to 1st centuries BC) before being overrun by the Romans and various Germanic peoples.
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    1.1 A native of any of the modern nations or regions in which Celtic languages are (or were until recently) spoken; a person of Irish, Highland Scottish, Manx, Welsh, or Cornish descent.

    Celtic League definition of Celt:

    https://www.celticleague.net/tag/pro...eth-mackinnon/

    Here an interesting article on why Galicia wasn't accepted as a Celtic nation and discussion on who they consider Celtic countries today.

    https://www.transceltic.com/pan-celt...ion-of-galicia

    Anyway people on here can say there are no Celts today but the truth of the matter is that people like Irish, Welsh, Scots and Bretons are still considered Celts. Argue about it all you like but you won't change this.
    What do you say are the minimum qualifications for being a Celt? Speaking a Celtic language and having a certain amount of ancestry (how much and from how far back?) or just one of those?

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