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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitebastard View Post
    Three elementary

    Today are defined the following races

    European
    Middle Eastern
    Sub-Saharan African
    East Asian
    Indian
    Australoid
    Native American
    Those listed sound more like geographic areas than races.

    You put a Korean or north Chinese in the same basket as a Filipino man, yet make of all middle-easterns (1 or 2), a distinct category to all Europeans?
    What about the Khoisan? By some anthropologist they are thought of as a separate race to (Bantu) Negroids, i.e. the Capoid race.
    And the Polynesian population? They sure had to be a distinct group as well then.




    As for me personally, I don't think races are existent in nature as such. There is human variation created through evolutionary mechanisms, and a closer similarity of one group to another (in genotype, phenotype, intellect, behavior etc.) as a result of them being exposed to a likewisee similar enviroment and living conditions.
    Now, you may call them Caucasoids and Mongoloids, Blacks or Whites, Nordid and Mediterranid, but that's all up to the scientist and the applyed criteria. Such notions still lack importance in extra-hominid nature itself i.e. races as we understand them are rather culturally than biologically determined.

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    In India there is only one Gipsie Race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis View Post
    And the Polynesian population? They sure had to be a distinct group as well then.




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    Modern Maori= Mongoloid- Micronesian(Polynesian) + Melanesian + Europoid. (Because of their low population, they lived mainly in North Island and all modern Maori have European ancestors.)

    Other Polynesians are Micronesian + Melanesian but some may have Europoid.

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    To my knowledge, one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis View Post
    Those listed sound more like geographic areas than races.

    You put a Korean or north Chinese in the same basket as a Filipino man, yet make of all middle-easterns (1 or 2), a distinct category to all Europeans?
    What about the Khoisan? By some anthropologist they are thought of as a separate race to (Bantu) Negroids, i.e. the Capoid race.
    And the Polynesian population? They sure had to be a distinct group as well then.




    As for me personally, I don't think races are existent in nature as such. There is human variation created through evolutionary mechanisms, and a closer similarity of one group to another (in genotype, phenotype, intellect, behavior etc.) as a result of them being exposed to a likewisee similar enviroment and living conditions.
    Now, you may call them Caucasoids and Mongoloids, Blacks or Whites, Nordid and Mediterranid, but that's all up to the scientist and the applyed criteria. Such notions still lack importance in extra-hominid nature itself i.e. races as we understand them are rather culturally than biologically determined.

    Just my two cents.
    I did write that there are three elementary races
    For example Indians are mixture of all three elementary races but officialy they are called Asian Indian race today
    on genetics tests someone will get south Asian or Asian Indian admixture probably because their genome now constitues a separate race
    I am not well informed about this. I write what I read

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hevneren View Post
    To my knowledge, one.
    Shouldn't perhaps Humans be classified as a species rather than race?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vasconcelos View Post
    Shouldn't perhaps Humans be classified as a species rather than race?
    Yes, the common mistake is "There is only one race, the human race", it should be "There is only one specie, the human specie".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis View Post
    Those listed sound more like geographic areas than races.

    You put a Korean or north Chinese in the same basket as a Filipino man, yet make of all middle-easterns (1 or 2), a distinct category to all Europeans?
    What about the Khoisan? By some anthropologist they are thought of as a separate race to (Bantu) Negroids, i.e. the Capoid race.
    And the Polynesian population? They sure had to be a distinct group as well then.




    As for me personally, I don't think races are existent in nature as such. There is human variation created through evolutionary mechanisms, and a closer similarity of one group to another (in genotype, phenotype, intellect, behavior etc.) as a result of them being exposed to a likewisee similar enviroment and living conditions.
    Now, you may call them Caucasoids and Mongoloids, Blacks or Whites, Nordid and Mediterranid, but that's all up to the scientist and the applyed criteria. Such notions still lack importance in extra-hominid nature itself i.e. races as we understand them are rather culturally than biologically determined.

    Just my two cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitebastard View Post
    I did write that there are three elementary races
    For example Indians are mixture of all three elementary races but officialy they are called Asian Indian race today
    on genetics tests someone will get south Asian or Asian Indian admixture probably because their genome now constitues a separate race
    I am not well informed about this. I write what I read
    so do you think that caucasoids need to be white skinned to be pure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Cool View Post
    Finally. Someone who gets it.

    If you guys want proof that race is a social construct you just have to look at this thread. Everybody has a different answer.
    True to a point, keep in mind hardly anyone has a graduation in such a field of expertise, and as such these are just opinions based on personal perception.

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