Iberian vs. Italic look.

[2Cool]

I think iberians got a lot of gothic+celtic ancestry,especially Spain compared to Italians.
Because most spaniards have that long face with high cheekbones and harsh face lines .
It was confirmed by some recent Y DNA deep tests that in northern Spain there are significant percentages of I2B-M223 that is clearly asociated with goths and germanics.
(9% in some Pyrénees population).
They also found R1B-L21 (which is celtic marker) - 16%.
Most Y DNA is from R1b-P312 and from what I know most R1B in goths from Sweden is P312 and not S21,which seems to be asociated with other germanics (S21 seems to be asociated with germanics from Germany Austria and so on and not with goths).
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/conten...ss091.abstract

The genome of Iberians are mostly palaeolithic in origin.

The Visigoths always were a small minority, accounting for less than twelve per cent of their kingdom's estimated population of 10 million

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visigothic_Kingdom

[Lábaru]

Spain has a lot of blood or genes shared with populations of North Europe and Atlantic facade, the North Atlantic genes are certainly part of the Goths, another part of previous migrations before of written history.

Most of the genes that distinguish us as people from Western Europe/Atlantic facade are native Iberian, older than the majority of European populations.

About Goths----->http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...ight=visigoths

[Vasconcelos]

Visigoths were most likely way less than 1.2 million.

[2Cool]

Visigoths were most likely way less than 1.2 million.

They were around 300,000 I believe.

[Lábaru]

and about the Iberian features, we have hundreds of photos.

groups ----> http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8008

Girls ----> http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...ight=visigoths

Cantabrian -----> http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37555

[Sikeliot]

Most of the distinctive Iberian look must come from these Paleolithic peoples then rather than the historical populations that moved into Iberia. Hence why Iberians neither look Moorish, Germanic, or Roman on average but they have their own look.

[Prince Carlo]

and about the Iberian features, we have hundreds of photos.

groups ----> http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8008

Girls ----> http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...ight=visigoths

Cantabrian -----> http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37555

This is a thread on Campanians from ABF.

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=31814

[Sikeliot]

More Alpine, Gracile Med, East Med, and Dinarid amongst the Campanians than you'd find in Iberia.. but pure Gracile Meds and the Atlanto-Meds can pass just fine in both Spain and Portugal.

[Dacul]

and about the Iberian features, we have hundreds of photos.



Cantabrian -----> http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37555

Those people from Cantabria are not looking close to italians at all and with those costumes and bagpipes are looking like some barbarian celts or so.
Pictures are really awsome.

[Sikeliot]

This boy is an example of a face that is of distinctly Iberian type