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    Default Do you think Odin was an alboz?

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    Nope. And think about that, maybe can become a interesting topic.

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    Odin from Old Norse (Óðinn) is a major god in Norse mythology

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    Odin came from Balkans? I don't think so.

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    Which Odin were you referring to?

    Odin is an interesting name as well as his brothers Vili and Ve. Wodan reminds me of the slavic word for water, Voda or leader as in guide, Vodja. Vili reminds me of the slavic word for will, Volja. Ve reminds me of the slavic word for sacred, Sveti.

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    Homologous with the Old English "Wōden" and the Old High German "Wôdan", the name is descended from Proto-Germanic "*Wodanaz" or "*Wōđanaz". "Odin" is generally accepted as the modern English form of the name, although, in some cases, older forms may be used or preferred. His name is related to ōðr, meaning "fury, excitation," besides "mind," or "poetry."

    "Vili" is the German word for "will" (English), "Vé" is the German word (Gothic wai) for woe but is more likely related to the archaic German "Wei" meaning 'sacred.' /endquote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rashka View Post
    "Odin" is generally accepted as the modern English form of the name
    Odin is also Norwegian and Danish. In Swedish it is Oden.



    But no, Odin being from the Balkans? Hel no.

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    I am trying to make people smile a lil.
    "No he was serb!"
    "Yes because vikings also got clans as albanians got" come on....
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    "All of the above more or less".
    You did not thought the poll was serious?

    Now switching back to troll mode:
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    Thor Heyerdhal said that Odin came from Azerbaijan/Caucasian Albania.
    http://azer.com/aiweb/categories/mag...aleksidze.html
    So if alboz are in fact the real population from Caucasian Albania (see the name connection) who moved from there,Odin was an alboz!

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    Is Odin from the Balkans? You got to be kidding me. Are you retarded?

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    [YOUTUBE]DW-LLguaIMA[/YOUTUBE]

    According to Thor Heyerdahl the Norwegian mythology tells that the Scandinavian god Odin moved with his people to Norway from a land called Aser, in order to avoid Roman occupation. A 13th-century historian's description of Aser's (Aesir) origination matches that of Azerbaijan: east of the Caucasus mountains and the Black Sea.

    Heyerdahl and other scholar are convinced that people living in the area now known as Azerbaijan settled in Scandinavia around 100 AD. Roman troops arrived in Azerbaijan in 97 AD.

    Odin came from the land of the "Aser" (Aesir), and is, therefore, frequently referred to as "Asa-Odin" (Aser-Odin).
    Asgard or Ásegard is the realm of the Gods Aesir in Norse religion (Asatru) and Norse mythology. The exact meaning of "Asgard" is Land or the Land of Aser. Modern day Scandinavians migrated north from the east of the Caucasus, Aserbaijan (Azerbaijan/Caucasian Albania) in prehistoric times. According to Icelandic Sagas, written in the 13th century, the Norse God Odin migrated from the east of the Caucasus, from Aserbaijan in the first century AD.

    Heyerdahl concluded that Azerbaijan and not northern Europe was the center from which the Caucasian people spread so that Chinese archaeologists would find their 4000 years old remains buried in northwestern China. He based that conclusion on early Norwegian sagas written down by the Icelander, Snorre Sturlason, before his death in 1241, (Snorri, The Sagas of the Viking Kings of Norway. English translation: J. M. Stenersens Forlag, Oslo 1987).

    For more information about the common roots of Azerbaijan and Scandinavia please visit:

    Scandinavian Ancestry
    http://www.azer.com/aiweb/categories...cles/82_heyerd...

    Norwegians Find 'The Land We Come From'
    http://azer.com/aiweb/categories/mag.../54_skruk.html


    http://thulesociety.net/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Heyerdahl and other scholar are convinced that people living in the area now known as Azerbaijan settled in Scandinavia around 100 AD. Roman troops arrived in Azerbaijan in 97 AD.
    This cannot be ... the Nordic Bronze Age existed already in 1200BC:



    But as to the religion, it looks like it could have been a mix. Bronze Age worshipped Nerthus and sacrifices.

    Thor is said to have been of Roman origin:

    The earliest records of the Germanic peoples were recorded by the Romans, and in these works Thor is frequently referred to—via a process known as interpretatio romana (where characteristics perceived to be similar by Romans result in identification of a non-Roman god as a Roman deity)—as either the Roman god Jupiter (also known as Jove) or the Greco-Roman demigod Hercules. The first clear example of this occurs in the Roman historian Tacitus's late first century work Germania, where, writing about the religion of the Suebi (a confederation of Germanic peoples), he comments that "among the gods Mercury is the one they principally worship. They regard it as a religious duty to offer to him, on fixed days, human as well as other sacrificial victims. Hercules and Mars they appease by animal offerings of the permitted kind" and adds that a portion of the Suebi also venerate "Isis". In this instance, Tacitus refers to the god Odin as "Mercury", Thor as "Hercules", and the god Týr as "Mars", and the identity of the "Isis" of the Suebi has been debated. In Thor's case, the identification with the god Hercules is likely due to similarities between Thor's hammer and Hercules's club. In his Annals, Tacitus again refers to the veneration of "Hercules" by the Germanic peoples; he records a wood beyond the river Weser (in what is now northwestern Germany) as dedicated to him.

    In Germanic areas occupied by the Roman Empire, coins and votive objects dating from the 2nd and 3rd century AD have been found with Latin inscriptions referring to "Hercules", and so in reality, with varying levels of likelihood, refer to Thor by way of interpretatio romana.

    And Odin then from Aser:

    Worship of Odin may date to Proto-Germanic paganism. The Roman historian Tacitus may refer to Odin when he talks of Mercury. The reason is that, like Mercury, Odin was regarded as Psychopompos, "guide of souls."
    As Odin is closely connected with a horse called Sleipnir, a spear called Gungnir, and transformation/shape shifting into animal shapes, an alternative theory of origin contends that Odin, or at least some of his key characteristics, may have arisen just prior to the sixth century as a nightmarish horse god (Echwaz), later signified by the eight-legged Sleipnir. Some support for Odin as a latecomer to the Scandinavian Norse pantheon can be found in the Sagas where, for example, at one time he is thrown out of Asgard by the other gods — a seemingly unlikely tale for a well-established "all father". However, it could also mean Odin represented an older cult of proto-Germanic hunter-gatherers, his association with being a wanderer and having shamanic qualities, and this story might on the contrary mean the Odin-cult was taken over by newer sedentary cults. Scholars who have linked Odin with the "Death God" template include E. A. Ebbinghaus, Jan de Vries and Thor Templin. The later two also link Loki and Odin as being one-and-the-same until the early Norse Period
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