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[SardiniaAtlantis]

LOL Learning them all together the worst idea for anyone to do.

[Comte Arnau]

LOL Learning them all together the worst idea for anyone to do.

I disagree. But that depends on each person's skills.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

I disagree. But that depends on each person's skills.

I think it will just confuse any person older than 15 which is when most brains develop a wall in the language department.

[Mens-Sarda]

To form the simple past:

- West Iberian (Spanish, Portuguese) uses one single word = the verb with a past ending.
- Catalan uses the verb 'to go' + the infinitive of the verb.
- French, Italian and Romanian use 'to have' + the past participle (like the Present Perfect in English)

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YESTERDAY I SANG A SONG

[YESTERDAY + SING-PAST I + A SONG]
Portuguese: ONTEM CANTEI UMA CANÇÃO.
Spanish: AYER CANTÉ UNA CANCIÓN.

[YESTERDAY + GO-I + TOSING + A SONG]
Catalan: AHIR VAIG CANTAR UNA CANÇÓ.

[YESTERDAY + IHAVE + SUNG + A SONG]
French: HIER, J'AI CHANTÉ UNE CHANSON.
Italian: IERI HO CANTATO UNA CANZONE.
Romanian: IERI AM CÂNTAT UN CÂNTEC.
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ANNE SLEPT AT MY HOME

let's add also Sardinian language to the map

YESTERDAY I SANG A SONG

[YESTERDAY + IHAVE + SUNG + A SONG]

Sardinian (Logudoresu) - hèris / d'hèris happo cantadu una cantone
Sardinian (Campidanesu) - hèris / d'hèris happu cantau una cantzoni

ANNE SLEPT AT MY HOME

Sardinian (Logudoresu) - Anna hat drommìdu in domo mia / mea
Sardinian (Campidanesu) - Anna hat drommìu in dommu mia

[kkk77]

[YESTERDAY + IHAVE + SUNG + A SONG]
French: HIER, J'AI CHANTÉ UNE CHANSON.
Italian: IERI HO CANTATO UNA CANZONE.
Romanian: IERI AM CÂNTAT UN CÂNTEC.

In Portuguese there's EU TENHO CANTADO (pretérito perfeito composto ~ composite perfect past), meaning I HAVE SUNG (present perfect simple). How is it in those languages?

ANNE SLEPT AT MY HOME

That's in Brazil.
In Portugal: A Ana dormiu em minha casa.

In Catalan it seems like saying "yesterday she will sleep".

[Comte Arnau]

let's add also Sardinian language to the map

YESTERDAY I SANG A SONG

[YESTERDAY + IHAVE + SUNG + A SONG]

Sardinian (Logudoresu) - hèris / d'hèris happo cantadu una cantone
Sardinian (Campidanesu) - hèris / d'hèris happu cantau una cantzoni

ANNE SLEPT AT MY HOME

Sardinian (Logudoresu) - Anna hat drommìdu in domo mia / mea
Sardinian (Campidanesu) - Anna hat drommìu in dommu mia

So Sardinian would align here with French, Italian and Romanian. I wasn't sure. Good contribution.

In Portuguese there's EU TENHO CANTADO (pretérito perfeito composto ~ composite perfect past), meaning I HAVE SUNG (present perfect simple). How is it in those languages?

That would be the Present Perfect tense. Almost all Romance languages would use 'to have' (HABERE) for that tense.

That's in Brazil.
In Portugal: A Ana dormiu em minha casa.

Oh, thanks for that.

I thought the article before a name was kind of optional. In fact, we also use articles before names in Catalan, it should be L'Anna (or N'Aina in Majorca), but I left it out for a clearer comparison.

In Catalan it seems like saying "yesterday she will sleep".

Yep, this is something that surprises many speakers from other Romance languages. There is a simple past form in Catalan too [jo cantí] (just like in French [je chantai] and Italian [cantai]), but as in those languages, it's considered literary.

[Damião de Góis]

Oh, thanks for that.

I thought the article before a name was kind of optional. In fact, we also use articles before names in Catalan, it should be L'Anna (or N'Aina in Majorca), but I left it out for a clearer comparison.

Nah, we use O or A pretty much before any noum.

[Mens-Sarda]

also in northern Italy they have the habit to put the article before names

[bo-marco]

also in northern Italy they have the habit to put the article before names

YESTERDAY I SANG A SONG
Emiliàn: Ajér (mè) a-j-ò cantâ na cansòn
a'jer a'jɔ kaŋ'ta: na kaŋ'sɔŋ


ANNE SLEPT AT MY HOME
Emiliàn: L'Anna l'à durmî a cà mia
'lanna la dur'mi: a'ka mia

[Mens-Sarda]

it seems that Sardinian is the only neo-latin language to retain a derivative of "domus" to say house, all the other languages use a derivative of "casa"

Latin : domus

declension

Number	Singular	Plural
nominative	domus	domūs
genitive	domūs domī	domuum domōrum
dative	domuī domō	domibus
accusative	domum	domūs domōs
ablative	domū domō	domibus
vocative	domus	domūs
locative	domī	domīs

Sardinian (Logudoresu) : singular "sa domo" - plural "sas domos"
Sardinian (Campidanesu) : singular "sa dommu, sa domu" - plural "is dommus, is domus"

it seems that the two Sardinian languages use both variations of the singular Ablative and plural Accusative

little house -> domitta
very big house -> dominariu

while the word derivated from "casa" is completely missing in Sardinian