Ancient Greeks

[Arthur Scharrenhans]

I find the terminology confusing; I think the name 'Greeks' is best reserved for the Indo-European people(s) who actually spoke Greek. Pelasgians (whatever they were) and Minoans surely settled (parts of) Greece, and contibuted some substrate to the later Greek popolation, but I wouldn't call them 'Greeks'.

[Crn Volk]

Any reason why this is not started in Greek section???

Agree. This should be moved to the Greek forum.

[Guapo]

Dorians were from the Danubian basin and moved south, Pelasgians, who came from Egypt, introduced that "th" sound to the Hellenic language.

[Petros Houhoulis]

I find the terminology confusing; I think the name 'Greeks' is best reserved for the Indo-European people(s) who actually spoke Greek. Pelasgians (whatever they were) and Minoans surely settled (parts of) Greece, and contibuted some substrate to the later Greek popolation, but I wouldn't call them 'Greeks'.

In that sense, the Greeks were the R1b because the modern Greek language is Centum IndoEuropean. R1a is Satem, others are not IndoEuropean.

Nevertheless, judging from the predominance of the Asiatic/African E1b1b and J1/J2 not just in Greece but in the entire south Balkans, your logic would turn everyone here into Semites or Arabs or whatever. Since Greece has been the origin of the Western civilization and by ruling out the possibility that the migrants from Asian/African origin actually created the Greek language and spread it to the other IndoEuropeans, the resulting concept of a non-European non-IndoEuropean people being responsible for the beginning of European culture and civilization would be absurd.

This is why genetics cannot explain everything, and were certainly not the primary element in the creation of civilizations or cultures.