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    Quote Originally Posted by Vrhbosnian Vanguard View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by bosnian View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by bosnian View Post
    islam has gained ground in almost all regions of the world,islam is more heterogenous than christianity..i mean you have islam in china,malaysia,africa,europe,all parts of Asia

    and now i do not talk about new converts but old islamic communities
    Yeah, I suppose that's why shiites and sunni hate each other and why Iran despises the Arabs then?
    Islam has divisions just as Christianity does. Islam spread so well because Islamic states could field large military forces to forcefully convert and occupy non-Muslim regions and convert them to Islam.


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    Because Islam is a repressive religion.

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    Albion, the spread of islam is not only based on systematic terror (warfare according to the "glorious" example of M to the uhammad, you mentioned that), but also on high birth-rates (thanks for over-populating the world in order to submit it to a stupid ideology...) and the death penalty for those who try to leave it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
    Yeah, I suppose that's why shiites and sunni hate each other
    Well it's not Black and White. Sunnis and Shias differ in some theological practices, and some same tribes follow both sects. Such as that of my mother the Northern clans are all Sunnis, well the Southern clans are all 12er Shias. Intermarriage is common between the two clans.

    Quote Originally Posted by Albion
    and why Iran despises the Arabs then?
    It's because the occupied become the ones who eventually occupyed them. The Arab-Persian rivalry pre-dates Islam and becomes the hot spot, when the Northern Arabian Princess Hind was made into a concubine to Khorsu II. It was said she was his most beloved and favorite concubine. Northern Arabia and Eastern Arabia were under Persian domination. Eventually the Arabian tribes manage to unite and brust into the Persian empire.

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    Islam has divisions just as Christianity does.
    Of course it does, however the two main sects of Islam are the Sunni and Shia. The Sunni schools are as follows are the Hanafi, Shafi, Malaki, and Hanniabli, and as well various Sufi movements.
    Neo-Age Islamic purtanical sects like the Wahabis, Salafis who merged into one.
    Shiaism has the Zaydi, 12ers, Ismailis, Qaramatians(extinct) and Alwaites.

    Quote Originally Posted by Albion
    Islam spread so well because Islamic states could field large military forces to forcefully convert and occupy non-Muslim regions and convert them to Islam.
    Islam spread so well because the local were tired of Byzantine and Persian rule. In fact in most of the early conquests the locals either joined with the Arabian forces or had little opposition to them. This was true in the Levant where the Arabian Nabeatans were often oppressed and prosecuted by the Byzantines due to their pagan and Arabian culture, not even the Ghassanids who nominally adopted Christiantiy liked the Byzantines and often favored Arabization instead of Hellenization. In Libya and Egypt there the Berber and Copts did not even resist the Arabian invasion. However the resistance to the Arabian invasion will occur in what is now Algeria, where the Berbers were not ruled by anyone and had adopted Judaism, they were the only people that managed to halt the Arabian invasion under the woman named Kahina.

    However a Yemenite Jew a recent convert to Islam Hasan Ibn Il-Numan climbs the ladder and becomes the general of the Arabian forces, and would subdue most of North Africa. Another for the spread of Islam was that system to taxes imposed on the pagans and Christians or tribute given to the Bedouin tribes for protection. The latter happened in Northern Iraq and continued to be the case until the 20th century. The recently migrated Bedouin tribes who settled in the North of Iraq often protected the Christians from Persian and Kurdish raids, and this led to the majority of the people of Northern Iraq to convert to Islam and adopt Arabic and this can now be largely supported by genetics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ficuscarica View Post
    Albion, the spread of islam is not only based on systematic terror (warfare according to the "glorious" example of M to the uhammad, you mentioned that), but also on high birth-rates (thanks for over-populating the world in order to submit it to a stupid ideology...) and the death penalty for those who try to leave it.
    Tell me the man who follows the belief that this world is 10K years old

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
    Yeah, I suppose that's why shiites and sunni hate each other and why Iran despises the Arabs then?
    Islam has divisions just as Christianity does. Islam spread so well because Islamic states could field large military forces to forcefully convert and occupy non-Muslim regions and convert them to Islam.
    And Christianity spread because it was all about rainbows, puppies and sunshine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vrhbosnian Vanguard View Post
    Tell me the man who follows the belief that this world is 10K years old
    I thought this was common to most Abrahamic religions?

    And Christianity spread because it was all about rainbows, puppies and sunshine.
    But I wasn't talking about Christianity, I was talking about Islam.

    The Middle Easterners in the past had military forces which Europeans could only have dreamt of at that time. Now it's kind of the opposite - yay progress!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vrhbosnian Vanguard View Post
    Tell me the man who follows the belief that this world is 10K years old
    It says nowhere in the bible how old world is.

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