View Poll Results: Which countries would yo consider to be Germanic

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  • Germany

    360 94.74%
  • Austria

    306 80.53%
  • Switzerland

    223 58.68%
  • Netherlands

    320 84.21%
  • Belgium

    155 40.79%
  • Luxembourg

    223 58.68%
  • Denmark

    310 81.58%
  • Sweden

    294 77.37%
  • Norway

    289 76.05%
  • Finland

    43 11.32%
  • Iceland

    205 53.95%
  • United Kingdom

    193 50.79%
  • France

    31 8.16%
  • others (specify)

    30 7.89%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarl View Post
    But some from Slovenes. Especially near Klagenfurt
    That's why I wrote 'most'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leliana View Post
    That's why I wrote 'most'.
    Thats very kind of u!

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    Germany, England, Austria, German-speaking Switzerland, Lichtenstein, Alsace and Lorraine (occupied by France), South Tyrol (occupied by Italy), Netherlands, Luxembourg, Flanders, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Aaland Islands (occupied by Finland), Iceland, Faroe Islands, Shetland and Orkney (occupied by Scotland), Channel Islands, French Flanders (occupied by France), German-speaking areas in Belgium.

    Scotland is more like a mix between Germanic and Celtic but the Celtic component won out in the end.


    Germanic-inhabited areas in red

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aces High View Post
    They are nothing without the framework of Anglo Saxon discipline.
    You want to say normans leading class?
    Normans were some vikings,not it is disputed if they were norwegians or danes or swedes or a mix of these vikings,who settled in France,mixed with local population,adopted a french-like language and come and took the lead of England and later of whole UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by romanul View Post
    You want to say normans leading class?
    Yes...but im biased being of Norman stock...

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    Quote Originally Posted by romanul View Post
    You want to say normans leading class?
    Normans were some vikings,not it is disputed if they were norwegians or danes or swedes or a mix of these vikings,who settled in France,mixed with local population,adopted a french-like language and come and took the lead of England and later of whole UK.
    Well I myself doubt that the Normans were still of mainly Viking stock when they invaded England. I think the Vikings just married into the existing French aristocracy there.
    Also a lot of Bretons and Flemish came across with them - it's estimated around 25% of the "Normans" in England were Bretons and a similar figure for the Flemish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack B View Post
    And "Ireland" isn't in the UK
    Any moron would know that. Northern-Ireland is still on the Irish island is it not?

    I mentioned Ireland because so many think that they are "pure celt" or some shit like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarl View Post
    But some from Slovenes. Especially near Klagenfurt
    I don`t know where you got this informataion.

    Fact is: The name of Carinthia is thought to be Celtic in origin, though two roots have been proposed:

    carant, meaning "friend" or "relation" - giving the meaning "land of friends", which may refer to an Illyrian tribe of the Bronze Age.
    karanto (pre-Indo-European root), meaning "stone, rock". If this is the case, the name shares its root with such others as Karnburg, the Karawanken and similar.

    Carantania is also related to the old Slovenian Korotan, from which the modern name Koroška arose, and it derives from pre-Slavic "carantia
    There are a lot of Slovenian surnames, but many have already been Germanised recognisable by the ending -nig like Pototschnig, Mikultschnig, Trattnig etc.

    But Austrian German is used as official language.

    The people are predominantly German-speaking with a unique (and easily recognizable) Southern Austro-Bavarian dialect typical of which is that all short German vowels before double consonants have been lengthened ("Carinthian Vowel Stretching")

    A Slovene-speaking minority, known as the Carinthian Slovenes, is concentrated in the southern and south-eastern parts of the state.

    So you cannot deny a Slovenian influence but the province is still predominantly Germanic like all other parts of Austria.
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    Only Germany+Austria, Swiss is 50-60% celtic, France is celtic,UK is mainly celtic

    Norway/Denmark - have their own culture different to German

    Finalnd is mix of finno-ugric tribes and swedes

    Dutch people is like no one else.

    Celts using germanic languages now but evrything else is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beethoven View Post
    Only Germany+Austria, Swiss is 50-60% celtic, France is celtic,UK is mainly celtic

    Norway/Denmark - have their own culture different to German

    Finalnd is mix of finno-ugric tribes and swedes

    Dutch people is like no one else.

    Celts using germanic languages now but evrything else is different.
    Well I highly doubt the South and Central Germans are mainly of Germanic blood. I don't see how the Celts could just have disappeared, Germans beyond the Hartz mountains and southwards must have much Celtic blood in there with the Germanic.

    I think all of our broad cultural groupings in Europe can be subdivided into smaller units. Germanics, Celts, Slavs and Romanics all have similarities to each other but have distinct differences between regional subdivisions and ethnicities. With the Romanics one would not say that the Romanians or Portuguese are exactly like the French, and that mirrors the situation with Germanics - we have much in common, but then also our differences.

    I tend to divide the Germanics into four subdivisions -

    • Scandinavians - the most homogeneous group. They identify closely with each other and haven't received as much Celtic, Romanic or Slavic influence as the West-Germanic speakers but have had a lot of contact with the Finnics and Sami.
    • Diets - The Dutch and their Flemish offshoot + Frisians. The Dutch originally a regional grouping of the Germans have gone their own way and are distinct from German-speakers now, if similar in many respects.
    • German-speakers - Not so much based around language or political boundaries, but shared traits. North Germans are harder to place but seem to identify as Germans and appear to be between the South Germans and Dutch not only in language but habits. Contact and assimilation of Slavs has been important. German-speakers could perhaps be further sub-divided between Low Germans, High Germans and Allemanics, but I see no need for it.
    • English - an isolate in the Germanic culture. Originally similar to Diets with input from the Scandinavians but developed independently after 1066 and under heavy French influence. Non-Germanic influences came from the remnants of the Celts in England, the neighbouring Celtic countries and France.



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