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    Quote Originally Posted by Drawing-live View Post
    Sure it is. There's no substitute for experience.
    A yong kid can read all the books in the world he still would lack the wrinkles..

    I don't know how this correlates at all with any foundational or fundamental concrete expression of what qualifies something as wise.

    If someone has gray hairs and wrinkles qualifies someone to be wise than there are certainly a lot of idiots out there who are "wise."

    I would not claim these people as wise, but rather a person with a good and stabilized combination/conglammeration of knowledge-information-theoretical thinking and practice-experience-concrete application has the highest probability for being considered wise in at least a specific aspect.

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    Geist, we've agreed that wisdom is rare therefor we do not assume that every old person is "the wise"
    Take for example interviews with famous people, in most cases the interviewer is better read or well read in comparison with this whomever famous person is..
    Lets take another example Steve Wynn: He never went to college so in comparison with a yong 25 year old buisnes major from harvard whos brain would you wish to pick for some buisness wisdom?
    One has to live life first i think..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drawing-live View Post
    Sure it is. There's no substitute for experience.
    A yong kid can read all the books in the world he still would lack the wrinkles..
    Sure. But some people at 30 have experienced more things than some other at 50. It always depends on the person.
    < La Catalogne peut se passer de l'univers entier, et ses voisins ne peuvent se passer d'elle. > Voltaire

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    There are some people that have done a lot by age 30. Who have traveled and lived through different cultures and have met a lot of different people. Some elders though who are in their 50s who don't have that much of experience.

    The Marxist whore Kate Millet 1969:“How do we destroy the family?” she came back.“By destroying the American Patriarch,” they cried exuberantly.“And how do we destroy the American Patriarch?” she replied.“By taking away his power!”“How do we do that?”“By destroying monogamy!” they shouted.“How can we destroy monogamy?”“By promoting promiscuity, eroticism, prostitution and homosexuality!” they resounded.

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    Urban dictionary is untapped source of bottomless wisdom. It's up to you what "bottomless" means.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/

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    Does wisdom depend on experience, or is it a talent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edelmann View Post
    Does wisdom depend on experience, or is it a talent?
    Neither. There are three types of wisdom from least to most important:
    -Practical: art of living, best decisions to avoid pain or to take up only as much pain as it is necessary to fulfill biological needs.
    -Philosophical: abstract understanding of truth.
    -Spiritual: not wanting pleasure or pain.

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    This here was a thought I had last spring, I had shared it in the epiphany thread but I reckon I shall share it here as well:

    Listen carefully to those around ye and ye shall be disappointed in what ye hear. The voice of the mob is the voice of a fool. Listen carefully to the self and ye shall be disappointed in what ye hear. The voice of the self is the voice of bias. Listen carefully for the voices of wise men and ye shall hear nowt but silence.

    There ain't a single one of us here who is truly wise, we're all too loud.

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    Who said wisdom is so precious? Personally, I think wisdom helps you in life or death matters, but not in actual "living".
    I am 23 now, and have been called "wise beyond my years" for as long as I can remember...but I think in order for wisdom to be of any practical use, you need something else too: faith(in life, and yourself) and courage.
    I almost lack both, unfortunately. True, I also lack the motivation to do anything of significance. I'm kind of a slacker.

    Anyway, I also believe that wisdom doesn't have to come from direct experience, either. It most certainly can, but not always. There are people who repeat the same mistakes over and over again in their lives, because they're so blinded by their egos that they cannot see their own errors(been there).
    Then, there are people who get wiser from a young age, realize that they share a lot with most everyone on the planet, and learn from watching other people's mistakes. (Been there, too. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breedingvariety View Post
    Neither. There are three types of wisdom from least to most important:
    -Practical: art of living, best decisions to avoid pain or to take up only as much pain as it is necessary to fulfill biological needs.
    -Philosophical: abstract understanding of truth.
    -Spiritual: not wanting pleasure or pain.
    What you mean "neither"?
    If there were no choices in life, you would need no wisdom. You would be like a train that moves in a predefined track.

    I think wisdom is about the ability to filter out the worst choices, and hopefully choose one of the best choices.

    Experience is like some sort of database that our reasoning system consults while making those choices.
    So yes, wisdom is very much depended on experience. But it doesn't have to be a first-hand experience.

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