Are Anatolian Turks ...

[Peyrol]

Dont worry guys..

Asian age is coming up..everyone will be more or less asian soon...end of all discussions

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[Su]

@ orangepulp and SometimesYes:

If you think that you are mostly Middle Eastern - do you agree then that Kurds and Anatolian Turks look exactly the same?

Well...Generally speaking I am not a big fan of Kurds, although I do acknowledge that there are also educated, pro-Turkish and anti-terror nice Kurds out there, I never bad mouth these sort of Kurds...Loki check the following thread I did when I was an active user at ABF:

Who are kiros? => Just click on the blue highlighted sentence.

Now back to your original question (I know I am not a beauty queen but an average looking Turk, so I am not going to be nasty and I will keep it more "professional"):

I do believe all in all Kurds have got their own look that is different than us. For some reason Turks have got many different type of looks while Kurds tend to have usually Iranid / Armenoid so that you straight now they are Kurds.

But there are also Turks who look Kurdish or the opposite side Kurds who Turkish, so after all there is an overlap regarding our looks. But the overlap is rather minor.

This is what I discuss yesterday with Onur, I will just copy and paste and then you can see the overlaps with Turks and Kurds:

And now check these Kurdish politicians:

Emine Aydin, to me she looks Kurdish and she's Kurdish indeed:



Hatip Dicle, he looks Turkish to me, but he's Kurdish:


Nursel Aydogan, she looks Turkish to me, but she's Kurdish:




Altan Tan, he looks Turkish to me, but he's Kurdish:



Serafettin Elci, he looks Kurdish and he's Kurdish:


Leyla Zana , she looks Kurdish to me and she's Kurdish:


Ahmet, he looks Kurdish and he's Kurdish:


Selahattin Demirtas, he looks Kurdish to me and he's Kurdish indeed but I have seen Eastern Turks with that look as well


Pervin Buldan, to me she looks Kurdish and she's indeed Kurdish but I have seen Eastern Turks with her look


Aysel Tugluk, she looks Kurdish and she's indeed Kurdish:


Ayla Akat Ata, she looks Kurdish and she's indeed Kurdish:

Kurds are proper ME'ers, NOT Anatolian Turks!

Also Kurds are Iranid people, so they cant be Anatolian, they probably are originating from Iran since their language is also similar to Persian.
But you see, Kurds have been living today's Anatolia for a very long time and they got also birth right to be called as Anatolian although they are and they usaully look Iranid.

Also you need to keep in mind, Middle East doesnt mean just ugly people, for example Lebanese girls are famous for being very pretty and also ME is a political name for the Western part of Asia and Middle Eastern countries do have many things in common.

PS: I see turkified Kurds as just normal Turks even if they might look different, that doesnt bother me since they are loyal to our country, so why should I discriminate them?

[Su]

Also LOL for the tags

[Loki]

OMG, Loki became a pan-Turkist

I'm not a pan-anything. I am just interested in history and the truth!

Btw the people from Gobustan were ancestral to many cultures and religions - even way before Turks existed.

[Loki]

Also you need to keep in mind, Middle East doesnt mean just ugly people, for example Lebanese girls are famous for being very pretty and also ME is a political name for the Western part of Asia and Middle Eastern countries do have many things in common.

I respect Middle Eastern people with ancient cultures: Assyrians, Persians, Iranians etc.

What I DO not accept is that you call West Asians middle easterners .. do you finally get it?

[Panopticon]

Odin was quite possibly a Turk, or ancestral to Turks (his people):

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Thor Heyerdahl took the most outlandish connections and turned them into theories. No actual scholar supports his theories and it seems like only he interpreted the "evidence" in that way. This is pseudoscience.

The cave paintings, etc. are from the Stone Age, long before anything related to IE people existed, long before Germanics came into existance and long before they came into Scandinavia. If there is any similarity, it is between Palaeolithic hunter-gatherers in what is modern Scandinavia and Azerbaijan. However, as mentioned, that has little to do with the ethnogenesis of either people.

Odin comes from proto-Germanic Wodanaz, not from the placename Udi. All of Heyerdahl's connection were pretty poor, imaginative and with little footing on planet Earth.

For the sake of argument, let's say there really was a connection: Odin was from Azerbaijan (something Heyerdahl himself turned against and went more northwards for afterwards). He still wouldn't have been Turkish because Odin is older than Turkish presence in Azerbaijan.

The name Azerbaijan derives from something completely else for the record, the name is Persian. Scythians and other Iranic people lived there before the Turkics.

[Siberian Cold Breeze]

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Hmm nice but that was not my point..I include India and East Asia too ..all the continent

[Loki]

I should have added a fourth option:

Hellenes

How could I forget that!

Ancient Hellenic expansion into Western Anatolia is indisputable, and different from all the other options.

[Loki]

Thor Heyerdahl took the most outlandish connections and turned them into theories. No actual scholar supports his theories and it seems like only he interpreted the "evidence" in that way. This is pseudoscience.

The cave paintings, etc. are from the Stone Age, long before anything related to IE people existed, long before Germanics came into existance and long before they came into Scandinavia. If there is any similarity, it is between Palaeolithic hunter-gatherers in what is modern Scandinavia and Azerbaijan. However, as mentioned, that has little to do with the ethnogenesis of either people.

Odin comes from proto-Germanic Wodanaz, not from the placename Udi. All of Heyerdahl's connection were pretty poor, imaginative and with little footing on planet Earth.

For the sake of argument, let's say there really was a connection: Odin was from Azerbaijan (something Heyerdahl himself turned against and went more northwards for afterwards). He still wouldn't have been Turkish because Odin is older than Turkish presence in Azerbaijan.

The name Azerbaijan derives from something completely else for the record, the name is Persian. Scythians and other Iranic people lived there before the Turkics.

Of course! I did not deny that.

I am a firm supporter of Heyerdahl's theory, until people can actually give me FACTS that disproves it ... not merely 'these scholars have rejected that'.

[Loki]

Also LOL for the tags

lol yes