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    Quote Originally Posted by Cern View Post


    This man looks exactly just like my grandfather. My grandfather maybe more CM like this man. West-Baltid/East Cromagniod indeed exist.
    I think this type is the named neo-danubian by some authors. Neodanubians would be combination and recombination of eastern nordic, dinaro/armenoid and CM types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrificed Ram View Post
    I think this type is the named neo-danubian by some authors. Neodanubians would be combination and recombination of eastern nordic, dinaro/armenoid and CM types.
    That guy is supposedly a "Carpathian and Balkan Borreby-like Type". What he really seems to be is a Dinaro-Borreby, or just an overgrown (less reduced) Dinaric/Noric. He's brachycephalic, planoccipital, high vaulted and long faced. Basically Dinaric except for his wider nose and more rugged features. The people shown on that plate are basically a spectrum ranging from Borreby to rugged Dinaric.

    Neo-Danubian was something different, it's a small, reduced, infantile blond type which is common in Slavic countries. Coon also created that term, and said it was a mix of Danubian and Ladogan. His Danubian type was a short, light to medium pigmented, high vaulted mesocephal with a very short nose, which he claimed was a type of Nordic or depigmented Med, but he was the only author who had such a type and it actually seems to be some kind of Alpine or just a made up type. Coon's Ladogan was a reduced Upper Paleolithic survivor ("Cro-Magnid") with slight Mongoloid admixture. It has varying pigmentation. Light pigmented Ladogans are usually what gets called "East Baltid" here, but that's made up terminology.

    Ratatoskr had a morph called "East Europid" which he claimed was the equivalent of Coon's Neo-Danubian, but it had a hooked nose and looked Dinaric influenced. I don't know where he got that idea from and I don't think that's a common type anywhere.

    Anyway, Coon's ideas about how all the Eastern European types were formed (ie the Danubian + Ladogan = Neo Danubian, or Nordic + Borreby + Ladogan = East Baltic) are kind of weird and I think he was just guessing for the most part. The East Baltic and Neo-Danubian do seem to be valid types, but Coon might have been wrong about how they formed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amud View Post
    That guy is supposedly a "Carpathian and Balkan Borreby-like Type". What he really seems to be is a Dinaro-Borreby, or just an overgrown (less reduced) Dinaric/Noric. He's brachycephalic, planoccipital, high vaulted and long faced. Basically Dinaric except for his wider nose and more rugged features. The people shown on that plate are basically a spectrum ranging from Borreby to rugged Dinaric.

    Neo-Danubian was something different, it's a small, reduced, infantile blond type which is common in Slavic countries. Coon also created that term, and said it was a mix of Danubian and Ladogan. His Danubian type was a short, light to medium pigmented, high vaulted mesocephal with a very short nose, which he claimed was a type of Nordic or depigmented Med, but he was the only author who had such a type and it actually seems to be some kind of Alpine or just a made up type. Coon's Ladogan was a reduced Upper Paleolithic survivor ("Cro-Magnid") with slight Mongoloid admixture. It has varying pigmentation. Light pigmented Ladogans are usually what gets called "East Baltid" here, but that's made up terminology.

    Ratatoskr had a morph called "East Europid" which he claimed was the equivalent of Coon's Neo-Danubian, but it had a hooked nose and looked Dinaric influenced. I don't know where he got that idea from and I don't think that's a common type anywhere.

    Anyway, Coon's ideas about how all the Eastern European types were formed (ie the Danubian + Ladogan = Neo Danubian, or Nordic + Borreby + Ladogan = East Baltic) are kind of weird and I think he was just guessing for the most part. The East Baltic and Neo-Danubian do seem to be valid types, but Coon might have been wrong about how they formed.
    Yes, the plate lacks of the most distinctive neodanubian feature, the narrow and projective superior mandible/upper lips.

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    So there is no West-Baltid/East cromagnid? This is ridiculous. Just go through this thread.

    WEST-BALTID

    A largely unreduced, only slightly balticized Cro-Magnid (East-Cro-Magnid). It represents one endpoint of the "Baltid continuum", opposite to East-Baltid (or Lappoid, in a broader sense). It is found in the Baltics, and to a lesser extent in Scandinavia and northeastern Germany, and is transitional to Dalo-Falid and Borreby types.
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    Hungarian examples.

    Height: 175cm





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    Quote Originally Posted by Cern View Post
    Hungarian examples.
    Second is, but the first is lappoid/ladogan influenced in the mouth/mandible (cute,cute,cute )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacul View Post
    Poland got actually plenty of neo-danubians not west-baltids.
    Same with Ukraine.

    NeoDanubian is an old term for Nordo-baltid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cern View Post
    Hungarian examples.

    Height: 175cm


    Hmmm, observing her, I'm understanding why I look her atractive, with this eyes color and something more dark hair and skin color she reminds a woman I dated some months ago. I suspected she was gypsy, such phenotypes aren't the rule here... her behaviour was very "aggressively lovely".

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    minor Norid but a good example of pred. West-Baltid

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