What's up with people who hate on Muslims/Islamists?

[Partiasn]

Al Quaida attacked the US because of their support to the Zionist regime not because they pray the Christ and eat Mc Donalds.
Between that, it's your point of view, Americans use to drop bombs everywhere, lot of people hate you around the world.

"Al Quaida" and the Tali ban ARE CIA Assets from the cold war.

The United States Military Establishment created them to destroy the Soviet Union without risking a full on conflict with a Russia that had ruffly twice the number of Nuclear Warheads as the US in the 1980's

It is likely they are still being used by the US government to terrorize people in the western world to GET the social outcome they want.

These people are PROFESSIONAL Liars, and deal in global corruption is a scientifically derived means.

IE they are the Advocates of the Devil if you have it.

[YOUTUBE]OEArCMCqcaQ[/YOUTUBE]

[Arne]

They could be Zionists..

[Svipdag]

Maybe SOME of them have read Sura # 9 of the Qur'an and learned just how hostile Islam is not only to Christianity, but to all other religions and cultures throughout the world.

If some are merely upset about Muslim practises and demands, let them
READ THE HOLY QUR'AN. If they lack sound grounds for anti-Islamic feelings, they will find them there.

All able-bodied [male] Muslims are obliged to "wage ceaseless warfare against infidels". (Sura 9). Of course, anyone who is not a Muslim is, by definition, an infidel. Logically, one must infer that, if you are not a Muslim, all Muslims are your enemies.

If they are in the minority, the "glorious" Qur'an advises them to smile upon you with their lips, but not in their hearts. Obviously, then, any protestations of peaceful intentions are to be distrusted. Islam is NOT , as some claim, a religion of peace.

It was born in war, propagated by war, and is still devoted to war against all infidels. "The world will never be Dar as-Salaam [the House of Peace] until it is
Dar al-Islam [The House of Islam]."


"TACITAE MAGIS ET OCCVULTAE INIMICITIAE TIMENDAE SVNT QVAM INDICTAE ATQVE APERTAE" - MARCVS TVLLIVS CICERO

[Partiasn]

They could be Zionists..

But here is the thing?

Who are the Zionists?
Jewish Israeli's?

The MOSSAD?

I doubt it, they do not have the infrastructure set up that goes back years.

I think we should begin to make distinctions between the common Jew, and the Globalist. Granted many of the "Globalist" are in fact Jews, not every Jew is a Globalist.

Globalism is what most "White" Americans wanted to deter even at the expense of global nuclear war. Reality is the only group out there that is really worth the hate is in fact Globalist. Yes some of them are Zionists but some of them are not. The real objective is far larger than one state of Jews, it is a world that conforms to one set of mechanized rules that THEY establish.

Russian's are not the bad guys, nor are the Islamics. Nor are the crazy Swedes. They may never see eye to eye as population groups, but that is ok.

Humans ARE NOT one group and should not be. There is no problem with this. It is called real "diversity", not the BS that is sold as "Multiculturalism" which in this world means mono culture with a dictator at the top.

[Zorg]

Why do you care what it says in the Quran? No one is making you follow it.

I have a minority view on this issue but one that is a rapid growing sentiment by many around the world. I am neither Christian, Jewish nor Muslim.

So I speak as an a non-secular individual. I, as many are, am fed with what the religions, their pimps, pushers and their professors try to impose on modern civil society or on societies that are yearning to become civil.

They are all relics of antiquity and have no substantiated claim on how governments should be run, how laws or policies should be created or applied.

And they've never had any claim on morality high ground. As evidence would have it some of thee most unnecessary, bloodiest events in human history has been taken, engaged or motivated by religion or their fanatical followers.

Fuck superstitions, fuck Muslims, fuck religions, and fuck all irrational doctrine.

[Partiasn]

Maybe SOME of them have read Sura # 9 of the Qur'an and learned just how hostile Islam is not only to Christianity, but to all other religions and cultures throughout the world.

If some are merely upset about Muslim practises and demands, let them
READ THE HOLY QUR'AN. If they lack sound grounds for anti-Islamic feelings, they will find them there.

All able-bodied [male] Muslims are obliged to "wage ceaseless warfare against infidels". (Sura 9). Of course, anyone who is not a Muslim is, by definition, an infidel. Logically, one must infer that, if you are not a Muslim, all Muslims are your enemies.

If they are in the minority, the "glorious" Qur'an advises them to smile upon you with their lips, but not in their hearts. Obviously, then, any protestations of peaceful intentions are to be distrusted. Islam is NOT , as some claim, a religion of peace.

It was born in war, propagated by war, and is still devoted to war against all infidels. "The world will never be Dar as-Salaam [the House of Peace] until it is
Dar al-Islam [The House of Islam]."


"TACITAE MAGIS ET OCCVULTAE INIMICITIAE TIMENDAE SVNT QVAM INDICTAE ATQVE APERTAE" - MARCVS TVLLIVS CICERO

The Christians of Europe in the middle ages did not have a problem stopping them with swords. But the Soviet Union and now the United States Military, two of the most advanced mechanized armies that have ever existed cannot stop them.

Give me a Break!

You can't defeat an enemy you are using and who is using you.
That is my two cents.

[Partiasn]

I have a minority view on this issue but one that is a rapid growing sentiment by many around the world. I am neither Christian, Jewish nor Muslim.

So I speak as an a non-secular individual. I, as many are, am fed with what the religions, their pimps, pushers and their professors try to impose on modern civil society or on societies that are yearning to become civil.

They are all relics of antiquity and have no substantiated claim on how governments should be run, how laws or policies should be created or applied.

And they've never had any claim on morality high ground. As evidence would have it some of thee most unnecessary, bloodiest events in human history has been taken, engaged or motivated by religion or their fanatical followers.

Fuck superstitions, fuck Muslims, fuck religions, and fuck all irrational doctrine.

Well I do say Fuck all irrational doctrines.

But the reality is Government is WAY worse than religion ever thought about being. If you start adding up the death toll of modern governments, WW1, WW2, the Cold War Proxy Wars between Russia and the US and the latest Energy Wars.

They will out strip ALL Religious wars in history, bar none. Religion is not the problem, Government is the problem, and it is a problem that we don't even need. Government is even worse when it gets the idea that it should enforce one morality over the other, then you get Genocide.

Genocide is a government thing, NOT a religious thing.

Religion is simply, an individuals personal view of the spiritual and nothing more.

[Zorg]

Well I do say Fuck all irrational doctrines.

But the reality is Government is WAY worse than religion ever thought about being. If you start adding up the death toll of modern governments, WW1, WW2, the Cold War Proxy Wars between Russia and the US and the latest Energy Wars.

They will out strip ALL Religious wars in history, bar none. Religion is not the problem, Government is the problem, and it is a problem that we don't even need. Government is even worse when it gets the idea that it should enforce one morality over the other, then you get Genocide.

Genocide is a government thing, NOT a religious thing.

Religion is simply, an individuals personal view of the spiritual and nothing more.

Religion is simply, an individuals personal view of the spiritual and nothing more.

On an individual, truly self-reflective basis yes. On the collective basis no. Even more specific, not on the collective and it's leaders who yield tremendous amounts of power.

What do you think Kingdoms, kings and queens, royal courts, nobility and the like were ? All these obsolete forms of governments justified their unquestionable power by the right of some divine or supernatural authority.

Also not to mention none could maintain any formidable or credible power without the nod of the religious assemblage, who have throughout history been outside the sphere of social or academic query or interrogation.

As our former almighty Christian oligarchies claw and clamor for ground there are still Muslim countries that still in 2000-fucking-12 face possible death or severe punishment for questioning the authority that their religions yield over their lives. And these people would love nothing better than to impose that authority over us, the west. Would you want that? Because I sure as fucking hell don't !

Obviously religion is not the cause of all the wars that we have had. Most of the time the main reason is economic factors, that is irrefutable.

Now, I think that we can both agree that the problem is power, mainly disproportional and centralized power. Whether that power comes from a religion, a political party or whatever else reigns over the individuals lives.

[Kazimiera]

Because I live in South Africa and due to my own experiences here, I think my view on Islam is slightly different to those living in Europe and the US who are being flooded with immigrants.

Here, especially in the Cape, there is quite a large Muslim population. This is due to slaves being imported from Malaysia and Indonesia a few hundred years ago, so they are part of the community.

There are some Muslim schools and parents have the option of sending their kids there, although most of them prefer to put the kids in normal public schools with others. The general consensus amongst them is that we live in a multicultural country and they don't want to shelter the kids, and rather make them aware of the world out there.

There are many customs which they have and still practice but they don't impose their presence on other people. They don't demand certain privileges and they go along with the laws of the country. Some wear niqab and it is not an uncommon sight here. The average Muslim here is quite open-minded. As there are no Muslim public holidays they take days off around Eid, but will then work on Christian public holidays without complaining.

All supermarkets have a halaal meat section from which they have no problems buying, even if the halaal section is close to the pork section.

I would, however, have an issue with Muslims flocking in from other countries and demanding certain rights. If you are not prepared to live in a country and obey its laws, then get out and go back to Saudi or wherever you came from.

[Beethoven]

Accoring Islam and Quran all non muslims going to hell especially christians and jews.

But i dont hate Islam i know nice and friendly mulims from Iraq and Israel, and evil and arrogant muslims from Morroco,Russian and KAzakstan.