The Great Turan. Do you support this idea?

[Anatolian Eagle]

Is Bulgaria part of this union, i ask because many hungarians and turks in youtube include Bulgaria in it.

Well yes sometimes Bulgaria is considered as part of it because old Bulgars are regarded as Turkic people. The only reason why often Bulgaria isn't considered as part of it is because modern-day Bulgarians are Slavic-speaking people. But I myself would be in favour of having Bulgaria in it though.

[Archduke]

Well, technically yes because Bulgaria is created by Bulgars and Bulgars were Turks but today`s Bulgarians are slavic speaking people, so if you take part in this, then your slav brothers and masters in Moscow wouldnt like that at all.

Bulgars were turkic, not turks, i don't know when turks are going to differ this. Thanks God, i'm slav, i prefer to be managed by Russians, than the stinky Turks.

[Pecheneg]

Bulgars were turkic, not turks, i don't know when turks are going to differ this. Thanks God, i'm slav, i prefer to be managed by Russians, than the stinky Turks.

This "Turkic-Turkish" is faked-up anglo-saxon terms to divide Turkic peoples, there is only 1 term for it in Turkic languages and it is "Türk".
and yes ancient Bulgars were Turks.
the True name of the central asia is "Turkistan" > the land of the Turks.
not Turkicistan.

[Anatolian Eagle]

This "Turkic-Turkish" is faked-up anglo-saxon terms to divide Turkic peoples, there is only 1 term for it in Turkic languages and it is "Türk".
and yes ancient Bulgars were Turks, not stupid anglo-saxon term like "Turkic".

Well I think I disagree with above .
There's nothing wrong with the word "Turkic", it doesn't seperate anything, instead it unites!

[Hayalet]

Is Bulgaria part of this union, i ask because many hungarians and turks in youtube include Bulgaria in it.

No. I also don't quite see the logic behind including Hungary.

[Pecheneg]

Well I think I disagree with above .
There's nothing wrong with the word "Turkic", it doesn't seperate anything, instead it unites!

Most people don't even know the "Turkish" is sub-ethnicity of the Turkic.
some stupid people say "you are Turkish, not Turkic, Turkic are central asians bla bla bla"

[Onur]

Yes I do support pan-Turanism, but without single religious dominance, I especially don't want it see it under Islamism or something like this. It should be with freedom of religion, where Christian, Jewish and Muslim parts enjoy the union.

Already the semitic religions, islam and christianity was what divided turanian peoples. So, you cannot unite the people with the very thing which divided them before.

Semitic religions cannot be a part of turanism idea. If you claim to be a turanist, then you shouldn't be neither muslim nor christian.

No. I also don't quite see the logic behind including Hungary.

It was the hungarians who created this idea, so you cannot exclude them. Hungarians has been christianized but they didnt forget their true roots unlike bulgarians.

So, Hungarians didn't loose their original culture, it`s just they have been christianized just like we Turks has been islamized but Bulgarians has been fully assimilated after they became christians and totally lost their identity and adopted a new slavic one.

[Anatolian Eagle]

Most people don't even know the "Turkish" is sub-ethnicity of the Turkic.
some stupid people say "you are Turkish, not Turkic, Turkic are central asians bla bla bla"

Well that's their ignorance, you can tell. Everybody else knows Turkish people are subgroup of Turkic peoples, it's easy to tell by the language at least.
There are Turkic people almost everywhere across Eurasia not only in Central Asia, so yeah, that's just their ignorance at all basically.

[arcticwolf]

We are Turkic? Well, TA never fails to "further" my education. You learn something new everyday.

[Kanuni]

As i am part Kuman myself i support great Turan.