Is Vasil Kanchov's ethnographic research of Macedonia reliable?

[Bugarash]

The turks are tricky

they are now trying to approach us in a good way,through culture but again with a hiden agenda.

For example there was a campaign sponsored by the turks called ''Balkan Express''
they were going by train through all balkan (former ottoman) states and throwing away concerts and stuff...but the real slogan was''we dont know anything about the states we held under our reign for 5 centures,let us learn more''

In Sofia they got a nice greeting

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[Ergenekon]

Turkophobia is needed if you want to survive in this region.

Only a idiot can think that turks dont have plans for this region.

Man you're insane...

[Sorcelow]

Back on topic guys, I have done some extensive research on the matter taking information from numerous sources and have come up with this. This is only on Greek Macedonia



The first category represents the population that would have been in the Saloniki vilayet, the second category represents the Manastir vilayet while the third represents the total population.

Most of the research is based off of Kanchov's data with tweaks from other sources that fix his errors.

As you can see, the Greeks are the most numerous, they are 30%of the population, the Bulgars are the second most numerous, they also contribute around 30% of the total population, the Turks are third and the other ethnic groups are under, "other"

[El Gre]

Turns out Kanchov did have a number of mistakes, probably even more

http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/for...macedonia.html

Well if you went through that thread then your question which you asked me about which villages in Serres were Greek yet counted as Bulgarian you will have your answer!!!

So its quite obvious that his stats were biased to boost Bulgarian numbers.
To omit Pieria and Thasos which had purely Hellenic populations was done for a reason, if i can quote the poster from your link

positioned in what the Slavic ethnographers considered to be "the southern border of Macedonia". Their aim was to exclude Pieria from Macedonia , because it was a homogeneously Greek speaking population , and with few of the ubiquitous Vlachs dwelling around Vlacholivado Olympou , who by the way were pro-Greek in their ethnic orientation.

You can watch again Vasli Kanchev's map , where he leaves Pieria uncolored , because he did not include her into Macedonia.

Again if you include these regions the Greeks will run neck and neck with the Bulgarians in terms of numbers, if you add the Pro Greek Vlachs and 'Grkomani' with the Greeks then the Bulgarians really stand no chance in what they call 'aegean macedonia'.

What makes me laugh is that they call the Vergina Sun = Kutlesh sonce.
They think Kutlesh is the old 'makedonski' name.
1. Too bad is a Turkish toponym
2. Too bad it was inhabited by Greeks!!!

[Sorcelow]

Well if you went through that thread then your question which you asked me about which villages in Serres were Greek yet counted as Bulgarian you will have your answer!!!

So its quite obvious that his stats were biased to boost Bulgarian numbers.
To omit Pieria and Thasos which had purely Hellenic populations was done for a reason, if i can quote the poster from your link



Again if you include these regions the Greeks will run neck and neck with the Bulgarians in terms of numbers, if you add the Pro Greek Vlachs and 'Grkomani' with the Greeks then the Bulgarians really stand no chance in what they call 'aegean macedonia'.

What makes me laugh is that they call the Vergina Sun = Kutlesh sonce.
They think Kutlesh is the old 'makedonski' name.
1. Too bad is a Turkish toponym
2. Too bad it was inhabited by Greeks!!!

Exactly dude, from my research, Kanchov neglects over 80,000 Greeks by either not including them or changing their ethnicity from Greek to Bulgarian or Turkish.

After the population exchanges and wars, the slavophone population in Macedonia has decreased to at most 150,000 of which 99% identify as Greek!!!
When will this fyromian propoganda end!?!? Lol, probably in at most 20 years when albs form over 40% and they lose the name dispute

[Onur]

As you can see, the Greeks are the most numerous, they are 30%of the population, the Bulgars are the second most numerous, they also contribute around 30% of the total population, the Turks are third and the other ethnic groups are under, "other"

No, Greeks were no way 30% of the total population because the so-called Greeks in this table also includes orthodox Albanians, orthodox Vlachs, orthodox Gagauz Turks and some slavic Macedonians who were still adhere to Greek church at that time.

Probably the number of Greek speakers in that 30% was no more than half of it.

[Sorcelow]

No, Greeks were no way 30% of the total population because the so-called Greeks in this table also includes orthodox Albanians, orthodox Vlachs, orthodox Gagauz Turks and some slavic Macedonians who were still adhere to Greek church at that time.

Probably the number of Greek speakers in that 30% was no more than half of it.

No, why dont you do some research yourself and see the truth, Kanchov neglected 80,000 Hellenophones by excluding the important regions of Katerini, Thasos, Deskati etc. He also misrepresented populatipns in the area to be bulgarophone or turkophone when they were actually Greek speaking. Go crack open a couple books and stop following what everyone else says and do some research for yourself

[Thraex]

The turks are tricky

they are now trying to approach us in a good way,through culture but again with a hiden agenda.

For example there was a campaign sponsored by the turks called ''Balkan Express''
they were going by train through all balkan (former ottoman) states and throwing away concerts and stuff...but the real slogan was''we dont know anything about the states we held under our reign for 5 centures,let us learn more''

1. Who supported us in the formation of the Bulgarian Exarchate when the Rum Patriarchate called the Exarchate schismatic? Turks or Greeks?

2. Who repeatedly tried to Hellenize Bulgarians in the 500 years of Ottoman rule of Balkans? Turks or Greeks? Do you remember who disestablished the Ohrid Archbishopric? Turks or Greeks?

3. Who wiped out the Bulgarians in Aegean Macedonia? Turks or Greeks?

In Sofia they got a nice greeting

Childish.