Do you think the economic embargo on Northern Cyprus is justified?

[Xenomorph]

Its not a state, its a pseudo-state. Its no suprise why NOT A SINGLE country have recognised this thing.

Have the Turks formally renounced any claims on the rest of the island? If not, then the embargo should not be lifted.

[dandelion]

Have the Turks formally renounced any claims on the rest of the island? If not, then the embargo should not be lifted.

Of course it should not be lifted. In fact, they should make more bans and more isolation to the illegal part.

[Onur]

Of course it should not be lifted. In fact, they should make more bans and more isolation to the illegal part.

Everything is banned already for 30+ years. so there is not much you can do more than the present state. They are under much more harsher embargoes than current Syria and Iran despite the fact that these old people didn't do anything bad to anyone.

But obviously it`s not doing any good for you. Cyprus is a little island and Turkey can fund it indefinitely. It`s nothing for our state, costing around one billion Euros annually, no more than our toilet paper consumption value.

Also it probably has better economics than the Greek Cyprus anymore and has much more luxury tourism estates and hotels than the Greek southern side.

[chipriota]

Luxury tourist estates, yeah sure. In land that belongs to Greek Cypriots and was occupied and Greek Cypriots were kicked out and were not allowed to go there for so many years... This is against human rights, just remember the case Loizidou v Turkey. Remember also Apostolides v Orams case.

Btw, the embargo is only in papers. I know many people who do business dealings with the occupied part of Cyprus.

I've heard from people who work in the government that both sides along with UN are trying to balance the level of the two sides of the island in order to re-unite the island, it's impossible as it is now, with the free side to be a developed country and the occupied side to be in very low level of living. Despite what you read and see on the internet, where they show only the "luxury tourist estates" and some parts of Kerynia and Famagusta that are developed to approach tourists etc, I've been there and I know. Most part of it is like an undeveloped 3rd country, the difference from the free side of the island is so noticeable that you think you go to a different country...

[chipriota]

The alleged "isolation" of Turkish Cypriots - Myths and reality.
A documentary in 3 parts (in English).

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[Onur]

Chipriota, why don't you deal with your own bankrupt state before thinking about the north side?

Greek Cyprus may need huge bailout
Cyprus needs to plug a 1.8 billion euro - or 10 percent of its GDP - regulatory capital shortfall in its second largest lender by June 30. Potential aid could be more comprehensive to cover fiscal requirements, Finance Minister Vassos Shiarly told Reuters.

Newspapers reported that aid could be anything between 6 and 10 billion euros.

Cypriot newspaper Phileleftheros reported that required funds were expected to exceed six billion euros, while the Politis daily said some suggestions put the bailout amount at up to 10 billion euros.

Either way, it would be a massive bill for Cyprus, whose 17.3 billion euro economy is the third smallest in the euro zone after Malta and Estonia.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/gre...&NewsCatID=344

Greek Cyprus would be a dog guarding sausages, says Merkel aide
Greek Cyprus should not take over the rotating presidency of the European Union next month because it has sought emergency funding, the head of a business group linked to German Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservatives said.

Greek Cyprus, which is due to take over the six-month presidency from Denmark on July 1, has a banking sector heavily exposed to debt-crippled Greece and said on Monday it was formally applying for help from the EU's rescue funds.

"This is the paradox of the European Union, that the dog should be put in charge of the supply of sausages!" said Kurt Lauk, president of the economic advisory board linked to Merkel's centre-right Christian Democrats.

Lauk called for all countries which have received bailouts - which also include Spain, Portugal, Ireland and Greece - to be barred from holding the EU presidency, which helps to set the agenda of the 27-nation bloc.

"It is unacceptable that a country which has had to seek a bailout can take over the presidency of the EU Council," he said, adding that he doubted whether Greek Cyprus, the euro zone's third smallest economy, had the authority to give direction on stabilizing Europe.

"How can Greek Cyprus engage in crisis management when it is in the middle of a crisis itself?" Lauk asked.

"We will never be able to heal Europe if the president is lying in intensive care with a highly contagious disease."
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/gre...&NewsCatID=351

[Albion]

It's not justified. Really the mess with North Cyprus could be cleared up by Turkey just incorporating it into Turkey proper. Only idiots would even dream of putting an embargo on Turkey for such an action.

[Dacul]

Cyprus and Greece are very strong allies to Israel.
So is not amazing at all that this embargo was imposed there.

[Onur]

It's not justified. Really the mess with North Cyprus could be cleared up by Turkey just incorporating it into Turkey proper. Only idiots would even dream of putting an embargo on Turkey for such an action.

Albion, Turkey and Northern Cyprus already declared that current negotiations between Greek and Turkish Cypriots is the last one ever. They are already negotiating for about 30 years and thats enough.

Turkey declared that if negotiations fails again, we will present two option to the whole world and UN, that they either recognize 30 year old Turkish republic of Cyprus otherwise the northern Cyprus gets included to the Turkey proper after a referendum in there.

[Albion]

Albion, Turkey and Northern Cyprus already declared that current negotiations between Greek and Turkish Cypriots is the last one ever. They are already negotiating for about 30 years and thats enough.

Turkey declared that if negotiations fails again, we will present two option to the whole world and UN, that they either recognize 30 year old Turkish republic of Cyprus otherwise the northern Cyprus gets included to the Turkey proper after a referendum in there.

This is great news, it's about time the situation was laid to rest and the world stopped messing North Cyprus about.