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    Quote Originally Posted by Iago View Post
    At the end of the day we are British.

    I'm sick of these foreigners telling us what we are.

    Let me tell you, I spit on Sweden and Estonia.

    I couldn't give a flying fuck about your countries or who the fuck you are.
    What the hell are you doing on this forum then?

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    Sniff.....smell like Taff to me.

    They weren't labelled the "west Welsh" for nothing.....
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    What do you folks make of this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angantyr View Post
    The Welsh, the Basquue and the Amerindians are all descended from the Ket?!?!

    All you have to do is ignore genetics, archaeology and linguistics and that makes perfect sense.

    What a ginormous pile of crap!
    I always regard Welsh former footballer and trainer John Benjamin Toshack as some kind of overfeeded Amazonian native...and Basques too.

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    To be honest, I can't be bothered reading the original article.

    I will say this, however; Cornwall's position makes it less likely a refuge for older pre-Celtic Britons, than many parts of Wales.

    I would expect more input from the 'original' Continental Celtics in the Dumnonian peninsula, and would say the same for the greater part of England, where this type has survived the Germanic invasions genetically, if not ethnoculturally.

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    Odd statement. Particularly if one pays a visit to Cornwall's old cemetaries... The ethnicity is extinct, though there is some degree of local identity. However, to claim they are "Anglo-Saxons" is a bit of a wishful thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarl View Post
    Odd statement. Particularly if one pays a visit to Cornwall's old cemetaries...
    Why? What do you see there?
    I live just over the border, in Devon, and have been in Cornwall quite a bit lately. I go to see the parish churches when I can, in hope of early mediaeval sculpture, mostly, but I look at the graves outside too, from simple nosiness. Graves both old and new show a high proportion of peculiarly Cornish surnames, most of non-English origin from a linguistic point of view.
    The ethnicity is extinct, though there is some degree of local identity.
    The language died out. The Cornish stayed where they were. There is an immense sense of local identity.

    I think you could call it ethnic, indeed. The thing is, the way we talk about these matters here on such fora is not how ordinary working men and women talk. That's why people are a bit iffy about whether the Cornish are an 'ethnicity' or not; this is not a natural English word, but a learned term.

    It might be a good idea to approach this like a trained poll-taker, market researcher or political surveyor; Don't ask a Cornishman or an Englishman whether there are ethnic differences between them. Ask other subtler questions, that have more deeper connections to what 'ethnicity' actually is.

    I suppose a lot of the relevant points of the 'ethnicity checklist' would receive a 'tick'.
    However, to claim they are "Anglo-Saxons" is a bit of a wishful thinking.
    Nah, it's pure idiocy!

    Though Cornish nationalists should acknowledge that there IS an Anglo-Saxon influence in Cornwall, even in BLOOD. There was some early penetration of West Saxons across the Tamar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osweo View Post
    Graves both old and new show a high proportion of peculiarly Cornish surnames, most of non-English origin from a linguistic point of view.
    And that is what I hand on my mind! Not many Norfolk Angles or Essex Saxons burried there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Is this the final nail in the coffin for the anti-English "intellectuals", who for decades belittled the Germanic genetic contribution to the British Isles?
    Yes, Germanic peoples have had quite a bad press since WWII when governments decided to link "Germanic / Teutonic" with Hitler's concept of "Aryanism"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iago View Post
    At the end of the day we are British.

    I'm sick of these foreigners telling us what we are.

    Let me tell you, I spit on Sweden and Estonia.

    I couldn't give a flying fuck about your countries or who the fuck you are.
    What the hell man?! What have they done to us? Nothing! The Swedes and Estonians amongst other peoples have been quite good to us I think (and we're not exactly a easy country to get along with).
    Most research on British origins is done by just that, Brits, although there's Oppenheimer who's done a bit on it too, he's a German Jew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperivm View Post
    What do you folks make of this?
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    Indeed, what do you folks make of this.


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