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    This tends to be quite a contentious area with certain types getting a hard on over their pet theories, on the one hand we have those who insist the English are “Celts” who forgot all about it, the other group tend to be various sorts who insist the English are “Germanic” and part of some mythical North Sea continuity, personally I find both theories idiotic. Even if we can speak of some type of “Celtic” and “Germanic” over group in the 21st century certainly neither label applies to the English. All cultures arise from various elements but more so in the case of people’s like the English, Scottish and French. Celtic? Germanic? Germano-Celt? No, just English it is the only label that has any meaning and the only one I feel we need.
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    No they are not!

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    YES THEY ARE!

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    Don't be frivolous.
    They are tall and dark-haired as a group and show few Anglo-Saxon traits.
    Their Celtic language persisted until the 18th century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antonio View Post
    I always regard Welsh former footballer and trainer John Benjamin Toshack as some kind of overfeeded Amazonian native...and Basques too.
    Funny, I always thought that Toshack was an east European surname. Turns out that it originates in Fife, Scotland. Also found this;

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    Definition: Son of the chieftain, with -in- meaning 'the' and -tosh- representing Toshack, from the Welsh 'tywysog' meaning 'prince.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treffie View Post
    Funny, I always thought that Toshack was an east European surname. Turns out that it originates in Fife, Scotland.
    Heh, like those Slavonic Flintoffs, McCluskeys and Toaduffs!

    Also found this;

    MCINTOSH
    Definition: Son of the chieftain, with -in- meaning 'the' and -tosh- representing Toshack, from the Welsh 'tywysog' meaning 'prince.'
    'From' might be stretching it, as it may be a cognate from the common ancestor;

    This interesting name is of Scottish origin, and derives from the Old Gaelic "toisech" which has the meaning "chief, leader" or "front man". In modern Gaelic the spelling is "Taoiseach" (the title given to the Irish head of Government). The word also occurs in Old Welsh as a proper name, "Torisaci", and in modern Welsh is found as "tywysog", prince. There appears to have been two original septs of this name, one in Perthshire and the other in Inverness.


    Read more: http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/mac...#ixzz1Nh5uD7kn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertas View Post
    Don't be frivolous.
    They are tall and dark-haired as a group and show few Anglo-Saxon traits.
    Their Celtic language persisted until the 18th century.
    Hard to know what Anglo-Saxon traits are exactly....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mary Bryant View Post
    Hard to know what Anglo-Saxon traits are exactly....
    Perfidy, hypocrisy and bloody-mindedness. That's why you all luv us so.

    Actually, I'd say it was pretty much impossible for an ethnic group comprising more than 500 inbreds to have a common look. Obviously, there will be certain recogniseable types, but never just one. Our older authors were either woefully simplistic in this respect, or have been read by moderns in a lazy simplistic way.

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    Who the f&^% are the Cornish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boadicea View Post
    Who the f&^% are the Cornish?
    A Brythonic people, as Boadicea's people were.

    Or perhaps they are in fact Germanic, who knows at this point? They are native to Cornwall, regardless. That you've never even heard of them is alarming.
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