The Cornish are Anglo-Saxons

[Logan]

I am about 1/4 English . My last name Plumley is Engilsh . My family came to the colonies from Wells , Pirdy , Somerset. From the the welsh border theory you would think all the Native Brits and Celts were slaughtered by Saxons on the other side of the border . Would the Native Somersetshire folk be mostly Germanic? I also had some family came from Halifax Yorkshire area. I am over half lowland Scots ( Ayrshire ) by way of Northern Ireland to America. Montgomery , Wallace , Brown , Walker , Gordon , and Seton.

Mine is English as well. The origin of which is a Domesday Manor in the South-East. The Ydna is thought to be of the North Sea Germanic People. Its location might attest to the English incursions.

I believe most of the total slaughtering to have been in the early period. I read somewhere that it was not uncommon to have been given the option to surrender. Survival of women, and entire populations in some areas is not in doubt.

Professor Beddoe described local types in his "Races of Britain" and the Cornish were very different in his view from the blonder more "Saxon" types in say Hampshire and taller and darker than neighbouring Devon.

I do not think him without error. From his map, and from many other sources it can be seen that Cornwall differs from East to West. I am not convinced that the English type was a ever a pure race. Much as you might find a latter Viking with the discriptive name of Erik the Black.

[Osweo]

Was Beddoe really a 'professor'? He was a doctor, and a gifted man who did what he could with the limited means at his disposal in the 1860s, but he wasn't a career scholar.

[Logan]

Was Beddoe really a 'professor'? He was a doctor, and a gifted man who did what he could with the limited means at his disposal in the 1860s, but he wasn't a career scholar.

A late Victorian scholar. I recalled only at bit of what is below. Ta. Benjamin Franklin received honorary doctorates from the University of St. Andrews 1759, and the University of Oxford 1762. Beddoe it would seem, in a stricter sense, lacked the recognition that he well deserved. Another Sherlock Holmes.

John Beddoe

M.D., F.R.S & C

Ex-President of the Anthropologacai Society of London and of the Bristol Naturalist's Society, Foreign Associate of the Anthropological Society of Paris,
Corresponding Member of the Anthropological Society of Berlin, Honorary Member of the Anthropological Societies of Brussels and of Washington and of the Philosophical Institute of Bath.

[Albion]

The Cornish are Cornish

The English are English

Honestly, who cares whether they're Celtic or Germanic? So long as they aren't something totally awful like Somalis or anything that isn't European then I'm not bothered.

The end.

[Logan]

English has many meanings. It can refer to one born in or resides in an English county. Cornwall is as much English as is Yorkshire. I would not think being Cornish and being English to be a dichotomy. I always considered myself both. This thread exists due to a wee minority within Cornwall.

[Septentrion]

The Welsh, the Basquue and the Amerindians are all descended from the Ket?!?!

All you have to do is ignore genetics, archaeology and linguistics and that makes perfect sense.

What a ginormous pile of crap!

What nonsense is this? Are you O.K.? Welsh are Britons, Basques are Iberians, both Welsh and Basques are Europids! Amerindians are not Europids, I believe they'll be insulted to be group with the Basques or "pale faces" such as the Welsh.

[Septentrion]

Source

Garbage.

[Septentrion]

The Cornish are English, firstly because Cornwall is a county in the South-West England region. Though Cornwall was most likely the last part of England to be conquered by the Saxons. Cornish resisted Saxon invasion longer than any other Celtic kingdom outside of Wales. Cornwall is actually part of the Celtic Nations of Europe, too. However the " Germanic" cast among the Cornish is higher than among the Welsh. For example, Germanic paternal lineages account for 45% of all Cornish males in comparison to 25% for the Welsh. So Cornwall is genetically less Germanic than the rest of England, but still as Germanic as the most Germanic part of France (Nord-Pas-de-Calais).

[Septentrion]

Don't be frivolous.
They are tall and dark-haired as a group and show few Anglo-Saxon traits.
Their Celtic language persisted until the 18th century.

Stop relying on myths. The Cornish are not as dark as you might think, approximately 30% have blond hair and 3% red hair. Cornwall is not the darkest-haires county in England, contrary to some old perception of the Cornish.