How does Bulgarian sound to you?

**safinator** · 07-07-2012, 07:25 PM

Sounds old Slavic

**Archduke** · 07-07-2012, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by rashka

I hardly understand them either. I can pick out words here and there but that is not what I call a conversation. That is why I don't understand why some Serbs say they can communicate with them,(that is if they don't know any Bulgarian).

they were probably serbs from eastern serbia.

**kvarc** · 07-07-2012, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by Armani

yeah it's like western bulgarians speak different language from eastern bulgarians...bitch please.

The speech in Western Bulgaria is not different from the speech in Eastern Bulgaria. The main difference is that the verbs from I and II conjugation are formed with the ending "-me" (examples: ядеме, говориме instead of ядем, говорим).

in villages in western Bulgaria you can still hear "ekavica" wich makes it much more understandable for a Serb, for instance they say "meko, hleb" like Serbs, not "мляко (mlyàko), хляб (hlyab)" like the eastern Bulgarian dialects. Even bulgarian linguistes call some of those dialects transitional with Serbian, so of course I will understand them better.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit...arian_dialects

especialy this dialect, I understand it speakers completely

**Archduke** · 07-07-2012, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by kvarc

in villages in western Bulgaria you can still hear "ekavica" wich makes it much more understandable for a Serb, for instance they say "meko, hleb" like Serbs, not "мляко (mlyàko), хляб (hlyab)" like the eastern Bulgarian dialects. Even bulgarian linguistes call some of those dialects transitional with Serbian, so of course I will understand them better.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit...arian_dialects

especialy this dialect, I understand it speakers completely

My grandmother is from Eastern Thrace and she also say mleko and hleb and that doesn't mean that Serbs are going to understand her better or that the dialects in Eastern Thrace are similar to Serbian.

Mleko and hleb and mlyako and hlyab are both same words, i don't see what is so difficult for Serbs to understand a same word with only one different letter on it.

**kvarc** · 07-07-2012, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Armani

My grandmother is from Eastern Thrace and she also say mleko and hleb and that doesn't mean that Serbs are going to understand her better or that the dialects in Eastern Thrace are similar to Serbian.

Mleko and hleb and mlyako and hlyab are both same words, i don't see what is so difficult for Serbs to understand a same word with only one different letter on it.

in live communications it is one of the factors that certainly make a diference

**Archduke** · 07-07-2012, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by kvarc

in live communications it is one of the factors that certainly make a diference

Most probably. But i believe that the dialect norms for the Western Bulgarian, described in Wikipedia apply only for uber villagers and old people. After all,the young Bulgarians learn in school Bulgarian literary language, which is from Central Bulgaria (Trnovo area), which is more similar with Eastern speech. I don't think that they learn random western dialects.

**Legion** · 07-07-2012, 08:10 PM

Sounds like fast Russian with stronger R's

**kvarc** · 07-07-2012, 08:20 PM

i mostly based my position on the language spoken by Bulgarians in Serbia, between them of course, which belongs to this transitional group and is very understandble by Serbs, but there is also an article of a Bulgarian linguist who said that Bulgarian is becoming more like Serbian because of the input from Bulgarian western dialects, via Sofia I guess. I`am sorry i cannot find it wright now.

**Archduke** · 07-07-2012, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by kvarc

i mostly based my position on the language spoken by Bulgarians in Serbia, between them of course, which belongs to this transitional group and is very understandble by Serbs, but there is also an article of a Bulgarian linguist who said that Bulgarian is becoming more like Serbian because of the input from Bulgarian western dialects, via Sofia I guess. I`am sorry i cannot find it wright now.

The Western outlands were in Serbia 93 years, so it's normal for you to understand it easier. The situation was the same with the Macedonian language. Macedonia was in Serbia and Yugoslavia since 1912, so it was influenced by the Serbo-Croatian language, so that's why you understand it better.

The Bulgarian langauge is becoming more Eastern, no way it's becoming like Serbian. Sofia can't have many influences on the language, cuz 2/3 of the citizen are people from all over Bulgaria, the native population of Sofia is 50 000 i believe.

**morski** · 07-07-2012, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by kvarc

in villages in western Bulgaria you can still hear "ekavica" wich makes it much more understandable for a Serb, for instance they say "meko, hleb" like Serbs, not "мляко (mlyàko), хляб (hlyab)" like the eastern Bulgarian dialects. Even bulgarian linguistes call some of those dialects transitional with Serbian, so of course I will understand them better.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit...arian_dialects

especialy this dialect, I understand it speakers completely

There's the Yat border in Bulgarian dialects. The whole Ekavian area is Bulgarian apriori.