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    Default The Oak Tree Appreciation Thread.

    Oaks are my favorite trees. Their majesty is undeniable. People since the time immemorial have admired oaks. It's a true marvel of nature. Post pictures, stories about oaks.

    Here is an example of Live Oak named Angel Oak on Johns Island,SC the oldest tree east of the Mississippi River, estimated to be more than 1400 years old.


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    I agree. We should plant more oak trees as they have always been traditional landmarks here - steeped in legend and tradition.



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    A mildew accidentally brought from America on some logs has infected oaks in some areas of Europe. It makes them fail in shaded conditions meaning that they can't grow well as a tree in woods any more. Out in the open it doesn't affect them so much because of the increased light so many of the newer oaks are found in hedges or in fields.

    This is why all plants and animals should be checked at the borders for diseases before they're allowed in. Gardeners have brought enough diseases to Europe on exotic plants, we don't need any more.
    The checks at borders would make importation of plants from places like the Netherlands impractical too since there'd be delays, that would help our own Fenland growers. NL would have to seek other markets I'm afraid, but they could still supply fruit and veg without going through the checks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuan Belanda View Post
    I agree. We should plant more oak trees as they have always been traditional landmarks here - steeped in legend and tradition.
    Yes, not just oaks though. English Elms used to characterise lowland England but are a rare site now since Dutch Elm Disease struck (that's its name over here). All the English Elms were actually clones taken from cuttings of some original trees introduced with the Romans.
    There are some Elms in East Anglia with some resistance, we need to cross breed resistant Elms with English Elms and then breed the offspring to look like the original English Elms and launch a replanting programme.
    Elms are some of the fastest growing trees and grow from cuttings so it wouldn't be too hard.

    Other trees I'd like to see planted more often are Beech and Hornbeam in Southern England, Hybrid red Hawthorn in the Midlands and Rowan in Northern England.

    Unnecessary, underutilised country lanes should be pulled up and planted as corridors of woodland with paths through them. They'd be important habitats and increase our woodland cover whilst saving money and benefiting people.

    And finally I'd like to see a few areas of England abandoned to form wilderness. The North Pennines where few people live and the sheep farming and mining industries are dying is a good place. People are leaving it pretty quickly and there aren't enough women to go around (Alston).
    Another area which would be perfect for that would be the Somerset levels. It floods each winter and is fit for nothing anyway, we might as well let it return to marsh, fen and carr. It'd make a good habitat for cranes.
    Wolves, beavers, lynx and wild boar could be reintroduced to the North Pennines if a fence was put around it or if the passes out were blocked. Eventually forests would spread back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
    Yes, not just oaks though. English Elms used to characterise lowland England but are a rare site now since Dutch Elm Disease struck (that's its name over here). All the English Elms were actually clones taken from cuttings of some original trees introduced with the Romans.
    There are some Elms in East Anglia with some resistance, we need to cross breed resistant Elms with English Elms and then breed the offspring to look like the original English Elms and launch a replanting programme.
    Elms are some of the fastest growing trees and grow from cuttings so it wouldn't be too hard.

    Other trees I'd like to see planted more often are Beech and Hornbeam in Southern England, Hybrid red Hawthorn in the Midlands and Rowan in Northern England.

    Unnecessary, underutilised country lanes should be pulled up and planted as corridors of woodland with paths through them. They'd be important habitats and increase our woodland cover whilst saving money and benefiting people.

    And finally I'd like to see a few areas of England abandoned to form wilderness. The North Pennines where few people live and the sheep farming and mining industries are dying is a good place. People are leaving it pretty quickly and there aren't enough women to go around (Alston).
    Another area which would be perfect for that would be the Somerset levels. It floods each winter and is fit for nothing anyway, we might as well let it return to marsh, fen and carr. It'd make a good habitat for cranes.
    Wolves, beavers, lynx and wild boar could be reintroduced to the North Pennines if a fence was put around it or if the passes out were blocked. Eventually forests would spread back.
    Same name is used in USA. The disease originated in China. American Elms have been decimated by it. Since then new hybrids have been introduced that are resistant to Dutch Elm Disease. Also Chinese Elm have become popular since they are naturally resistant to this disease. American Elm is a majestic tree and now there is a chance we will save them, but at one time it seemed hopeless.


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    Quote Originally Posted by arcticwolf View Post
    Same name is used in USA. The disease originated in China. American Elms have been decimated by it. Since then new hybrids have been introduced that are resistant to Dutch Elm Disease. Also Chinese Elm have become popular since they are naturally resistant to this disease. American Elm is a majestic tree and now there is a chance we will save them, but at one time it seemed hopeless.

    English Elms used to be one of the most common trees here, now they're very rare.
    They re-grow from the roots of the old elms in hedges but once they reach a certain height the disease kills them back to the roots.
    Resistant varieties are being developed but there's none that are immune yet. It's such a shame, they've been a part of our landscape since the Romans and now they only survive in a few enclaves. At least if disease resistant varieties are developed it will make the trees tougher in future.
    Elms disappeared from the pollen record here quite abruptly a few thousand years ago. It's thought that a disease had wiped them out then too and that eventually the resistant ones recolonised the country.

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    Oaks are an obsession in Mobile, Alabama.

    Some streets need to be widened to accommodate growing traffic, but the city will not permit any tree cutting.







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    I love all these big monumental trees and I feel a close connection with them ,
    I most love sycamore trees , but all other huge old oak trees ,firs,beeches ,cypress fills me with joy and respect ..i can spend a whole day around such a tree...

    This 700 years old oak tree in Eskişehir Turkey is monumental and sacred and under protection..produce leaves every 6 of May, is oldest tree in this region respected by villagers ..(ribbons on tree shows that)
    23O CM diameter 7 metres around its trunk
    ESKİŞEHİR (İHA) - Eskişehir'de, 'karbon' testi yöntemiyle 700 yaşında olduğu tespit edilen dev meşe ağacı koruma altına alındı.

    Seyitgazi ilçesine bağlı Çürüttüm köyünde bulunan çapı 230 santimetre, çevresi ise yaklaşık 7 metre olan 700 yıllık meşe ağacı, bir kez daha yeşerecek. Her yıl 6 Mayıs'ta yaprak açan ve vatandaşların kutsal olduğuna inandığı meşe, bölgedeki en yaşlı ağaç olma özelliğini koruyor.

    Köy sakinlerinden 84 yaşındaki Halil Çam, "Ben kendimi bildim bileli, bu meşe bu heybetiyle duruyor. Köyümüzden kimse meşeye zarar vermez. Hatta bazı kişiler dilek ağacı olarak kullanıyor. Her yıl Hıdırellez'in de içinde bulunduğu Mayıs ayının ilk haftası yeşerir" dedi.

    Tarihi Osmanlı İmparatorluğu'nun kuruluşuna denk gelen ve Orman Bölge Müdürlüğü tarafından koruma altında tutulan ağaç, Eskişehir Valiliği'nin hazırladığı tanıtım kitabında da yer aldı.






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