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    I wasn't entirely sure where to put this topic, so hopefully this area is fine.

    I am not sure if anyone here has more information on this or not, as I have searched the internet and have found very little, yet from some experiences I've had in Europe seems to be a rising problem. What I am wondering is if there are any website or resources out there that provide a general overview of the frequency of human trafficking into "white slavery", and more particularly the trafficking of white North American and Western European women in Western European nations. Any kind of database keeping records of pausible abductions and their frequencies by Western European nation and/or city? You read articles about this sort of thing happening in third world nations, but rarely in western Europe and when it does it almost always seems to involve Eastern European women.

    The reason I ask is that yesterday I found myself for the third time randomly confronted in a transtation by a coloured male who began to immediately ask me questions. The first time was three years ago, when I was approached by an Arab who persistantly attempted to lure me into some shady sex shop wherein he claimed there was an internet cafe...he claimed to have some kind of injury to his hand and was unable to type and was looking for someone to help him type. I refused outright and kept walking though he continued to follow and attempt to convince me (even after me blatantly telling him to fuck off) until I finally got to the train station.

    The other two instances took place in the Munich train station, and the "spookiest" just yesterday. I was walking away from the info booth toward the exit in the Munich train station when literally out of nowhere I was approached by a black African male who asked where I was from. The situation at this point seemed all too familiar so I decided to play along to see what kind of bullshit he'd try to feed me where as the last time I merely walked away without response. After finding out I was from Canada he started asking me if I spoke French (after which he began speaking to me in French), if I was a tourist, what I was doing, with whom I was traveling, where I was staying. After the question of whether I was a tourist I provided only false answers, and after the last I told him I had no time for this shit and tried to walk away, after which point, he tried following asking why I had no time to talk a little bit until I turned around and asked him if he thought I was that stupid and told him to fuck off. After leaving the station to look for a place to stay directly after this encounter, I was admittedly quite edgy. Looking over my shoulder as I approached the exit I noticed two Arab men following behind who seemed to be trying to look like they were having a conversation but who kept eyeing me. Not knowing whether I was being paranoid or not, I walked out the exit with them behind, stopped at the bottom of the steps near a ramp and stood for a second to see if they would stop or keep walking. They, too, had stopped and where standing around talking, and obviously keeping an eye on me. I went back into the station and they moved up the steps again though didn't enter the station. Basically I booked the closest hotel possible (I usually stay in hostels but I'm not fond of the one in Munich for a situation like this).

    The fact that they seemed to take interest on where I was from (the first two times I shared no information whatsoever but were very quick to note that I was North American via my accent), and at least on one occasion were obviously working within a group led me to believe that their motives were something more than just one guy trying to lure some girl off into a secluded area, nor were they attempting to rob me. While I understand such confrontations happening perhaps once if at all to a female traveling in Europe, I find it strange that it's happened three times and two of which were quite close to one another.

    So my question, while wanting to know perhaps from local Germans or other Europeans who know of such instances in their nations if there are any statistics regarding this sort of thing: are certain train stations known to have problems with abudctions, possibly related to organized crime, of white western women? Has there been a rise in the problem, and particularly of the targeting of North American women in the last few years? You never read articles about it, but I'm sure there have been white westerners at those stations who didn't realise what was going on and actually fell for the bullshit these guys come up with. How many and what serious measures being taken to put an end to this if any?

    And yet, with people like this on the streets harassing law-abiding individuals, I wonder how the German government, or any western government, can really justify such strict weapon laws. Especially when law enforcement doesn't seem to care much.

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    As I said in the PM, this is mostly an Albanian problem. Somalis a close second. Law enforcement is crippled by 'human rights' legislation and PC attitudes towards immigration and profiling...

    Organisations like La Strada and the Angel Coalition may have some material on this. I forgot to say in the PM: The UN organisations like the IOM and, I'm sad to say, UNICEF may have figures too.

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    It's horrible that a young lady like yourself can't just do what you need to do without being in some sort of horrible confrontation. I can't imagine that.

    I think in America most predators are online trying to con young women into who knows what, and sure there have even been abductions of women and children. But, I'm not sure anyone here would have the balls to try what you experience.

    I mean, can you imagine walking in Europe and a European male saying or doing these things ....they wouldn't. Only the ones who shouldn't be there.

    It's very bothering to me that you can't feel safe and travel on foot without being harassed and being put in horrible situations. Be safe.

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    Go rent the movie "Taken" with Liam Neeson. In the movie, his daughter is taken by Albanian slave traffickers in Paris. You will love what he does to these scum to get his daughter back.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwjlYgu2ObU

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    In Latvia it is often the same. There are no black people but Russians who want to convince Latvian women to work "outside"!! Riga and Daugvapils are very notorious for that. It is often the same tour they ask if you want to solve your money problems and come around in Europe!! They do not abduct you but " invite" you to a local bar which is often a strip local. There they want to inspect you if you are good enough for the job!! The not so good should work in Russia or in Latvia in sex tourism industry and some are send to Western Europe for cheap prostitution. But they do make it with all women! They do it with their own women also! Russians send their own Russian women into prostitution or strip clubs. What is the most bad thing is that they often take away the passport and they can not espace.

    When i was trying to get model jobs in Latvia i have made very bad experience with some Russian owned agencys!! We was sending some applications with my portfolio out to some model agencys and some invited me for a casting. A few of them were not looking like a agency but more like a shady brothel!! I ask you what do you think first if you come in as a 14 year old girl and the second question you get asked is if you want to make a little shooting in underwear , and the underwear they want to give you is teasing lingery?? The only answer is turn around and go fast trough the exit.

    Thank to Russian and organized crime influence in Baltic cities it is easier as a woman to end up in the sex industry than getting a normal job!! It is no joke and it is total sickening! You must watch out for yourself everywhere.
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    YggsVinr, I'm not sure about the answers but my guess would be that yes, busy rail and busstations would be targeted by people who are looking for someone to prey off. These places provide them with a constant stream of raw material and also the opportunity to make contact with / approach them.

    I'm guessing there won't be a database of "plausible abductions" from these locations in Western Europe. One reason being that imo (could be wrong) not that many abductions are carried out from Western European locations. The Africans and Arabs you encountered were more likely interested in sex or in pursuading people to "work" for them.

    Abductions are much more likely to take place in Eastern Europe or the former Soviet Union countries where young girls are lured with the promise of "jobs" in Europe and Israel. Their passports get confiscated once across the border and they have nowhere to go. Most of the traffickers tend to be Lithuanian, Albanian and other Balkans countries, Israelis / Jewish and to a lesser degree from other countries in the regions. The actual "abduction" takes place once the girl reaches the final destination and is forced into working for the human traffickers.

    They don't usually target Westerners to the same degree because it isn't worth the hassle for them. (Note how you mentioned that they quickly picked up on your North American accent). Westerners are more likely to know somebody, have a government or consulate which can provide assistance and they are less likely to be travelling / working illegally etc.

    Ask around in Munchen, perhaps some of the local girls will be able to give you good information on how things work there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oswiu View Post
    As I said in the PM, this is mostly an Albanian problem. Somalis a close second. Law enforcement is crippled by 'human rights' legislation and PC attitudes towards immigration and profiling...

    Organisations like La Strada and the Angel Coalition may have some material on this. I forgot to say in the PM: The UN organisations like the IOM and, I'm sad to say, UNICEF may have figures too.

    I watched a movie about that a while back called Taken.Unfortunately, the real endings are never happy.

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