What is the single most important thing that attracts a woman to a man

[Hochmeister]

Because women consider everything through the alembic of evolution. A narrow shouldered guy would be a bad defender for children.

[Cynewald]

It is deplorable how much it sucks for guys on dating sites for many reasons. There is usually a hugely uneven ratio of men vs women, with men in the great majority, so they are worthless dime a dozens. Girls dont initiate contact or are reluctant to do so (unless your a very handsome guy in the top 20%), so the guys have to do all the messaging and we face the most rejection and frustration. Think of how easy it is for a good looking or average looking woman on a dating site- all she has to do is post a few sexy pics and write practically nothing in her profile and wait for the 100's of weekly messages to come pouring in and be as picky choosy to the highest degree as she likes. They get so much messages they dont have to do any searching, just reading and deleting and blocking. Its an ego boosting experience for women- they get to screen put, reject and delete as many ugly, average, and even decent looking, quality guys as they please and only respond to the top creme de la creme 15% model quality ones. And they often have outrageous expectations and standards like "he must be tall, dark, handsome, intelligent, witty, goal-oriented, earn xxxx, be masculine, ambitious etc etc and all the usual bullshit. I even did an experiment on the Plentyoffish dating website: I choose a picture of a very good looking 6ft4 guy, I even wrote down a crappy profile, but I still got 16 messages in 1 day, and that was from girls contacting me first (not responding to my sent messages because I sent 0).

It proves women are going for looks only!

Even for a average looking, educated white guy like me, internet dating is a very humbling experience. Out of 100 messages I've sent so far this week, I've yet to receive 1 reply (AND I DO HAVE A GOOD PHOTO AND WRITTEN PROFILE FOR MY PROFILE BY THE WAY). I know that's not that much but Christ, no replies from 100 messages has to tell you something. Online I feel like a nobody because I just get ignored all the time. Its like women have no interest in me whatsoever online. The good looking, hell even the average looking girls on this site, especially from my area are very stuck up and they only reply to you if you are 8+ out of 10 in a scale of attractiveness, no exaggeration. Its like online a guys' level of attractiveness takes a dramatic drop due to all the competition and other crap, so its about 100 times more difficult to find someone. It sucks for average/ugly guys, plain and simple. And dont come and tell me that its the same for women too because that is bullshit. You can do all the sieving you want.

This only proves to me about my looks theory: women only want the elite top 20% of the guys with the best looks. Prove me otherwsie people that think I'm a nut, psycho etc.

[Corvus]

I agree, online dating sites are more or less worthless for males.
While girls get up to 50 PM`s each day, males approx. receive one per month provided
their appearance is above average

[Absinthe]

What do you write on your messages? How's your profile made up? I am sure you both look and sound desperate, that's why you get no replies.

[Cynewald]

What do you write on your messages? How's your profile made up? I am sure you both look and sound desperate, that's why you get no replies.

Utter bullshit. ALL YOU FEMALES DO IS LOOK FOR EXCUSES to hide the fact your shallow and go for looks/ top 20% of goodlooking guys / hunks. Admit it for once, please? Why do you girls have troubles admitting it? Is it because you don't want to be thought of as shallow, and you like tho think your mate choices were based on the non-superficial?

I've had my profile checked by professionals on a relationship website. They all said it was well written and should attract numerous females. It is not desperate or needy in the slightest. I'm just not goodlooking enough for responses.

[Corvus]

What do you write on your messages? How's your profile made up? I am sure you both look and sound desperate, that's why you get no replies.

I actually get responses from Russian and Ukranian women who claim that I am the man of their dreams. They are also very attractive and send me pics in swimwear

Unfortunatly this is only scam
Apart from that no girl has ever written me

[Absinthe]

Utter bullshit. ALL YOU FEMALES DO IS LOOK FOR EXCUSES to hide the fact your shallow and go for looks/ top 20% of goodlooking guys / hunks. Admit it for once, please? Why do you girls have troubles admitting it? Is it because you don't want to be thought of as shallow, and you like tho think your mate choices were based on the non-superficial?

I don't go for hunks/upper 20% looks-wise, dude.

In fact it is exactly the opposite: I've consciously been avoiding the "hunks" because I know what's in store with them: constant drama, cheating, shallowness, bad sex, etc.

I've always been going for the average Joes, myself. I've even had "ugly" (according to the norm) boyfriends who were, however, exceptionally intelligent and cultivated. I'm basically a nerd and I go for nerds, because I am turned on by wit and humor and not just muscles.

So stop generalizing and insisting on this bullshit you believe in. Not all women are like you say, in fact few of them are. Are you hitting on 20 year olds perhaps? What the fuck do you expect then?

[Just90]

Because for a guy , the body it's more important
Just go to the hot or not websites lmao
And a girl can have a horrendous face and yet score prob a 9 cause she has big breasts and a define booty lmao

[Cynewald]

I don't go for hunks/upper 20% looks-wise, dude.

In fact it is exactly the opposite: I've consciously been avoiding the "hunks" because I know what's in store with them: constant drama, cheating, shallowness, bad sex, etc.

I've always been going for the average Joes, myself. I've even had "ugly" (according to the norm) boyfriends who were, however, exceptionally intelligent and cultivated. I'm basically a nerd and I go for nerds, because I am turned on by wit and humor and not just muscles.

So stop generalizing and insisting on this bullshit you believe in. Not all women are like you say, in fact few of them are. Are you hitting on 20 year olds perhaps? What the fuck do you expect then?

I'm messaging girls from 25 to 38 years old.

[Absinthe]

I'm messaging girls from 25 to 38 years old.

Well that is an excellent age-range for yourself. I'm trying to help you here. What are you writing them? Cut the defensive bullshit and just trust someone there for a while.