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    Post The Dark Knight Rises

    'Dark Knight Rises' sinks
    By CHRISTOPHER KELLY

    McClatchy Newspapers


    Christopher Nolan's "The Dark Knight Rises" aims to be nothing less than the be-all, end-all of the comic-book genre, a movie that encapsulates all the superhero movies that have come before it, and renders all that might follow a tad irrelevant. The film has dozens of characters, an epically complicated vision of good and evil, and a score that rises up every few minutes. It's hard not to admire the scope of the storytelling, and the director's sheer determination to make us take it seriously.

    What is missing, though, is the sense of anguish, perversity and danger that gave such weight to this film's predecessor, "The Dark Knight" (2008). That movie showed us a man tearing apart at the seams, unable to distinguish any longer between guilt and innocence. This one just puts us through the familiar paces of a reluctant superhero who must dust off his cape and accept his fate as a peacekeeper. Instead of looking like no other comic-book movie you've ever seen, it ends up looking like dozens of other films, only on steroids.

    Eight years have passed, and Gotham City has settled into a sustained peace, just as Bruce Wayne/Batman (Christian Bale) seems to have disappeared into exile. The populace remains under the impression that Batman is a thug who murdered their beloved district attorney Harvey Dent, a lie sustained - albeit not without a fair amount of guilt - by Commissioner Gordon (Gary Oldman).

    Nolan, working with his regular screenwriting partner, his brother Jonathan Nolan, has long been attracted to the moral gray zone in this series, and he's at it again. Does a government owe its people the truth, even if the lie produces a long-range benefit? (Hundreds of hardened criminals have been arrested under a law created and named in Dent's honor.)

    Is Wayne betraying himself and the people by not standing up as "The Batman" and instead remaining holed up in his mansion, where he stews in regret over lost love Rachel Dawes?

    Perhaps needless to say, these matters will soon be put to the test, courtesy of an elaborate plot by Bane (Tom Hardy) - an evildoer wearing an S&M-like mask with metal teeth - to stage an overthrow of society. Turns out that, in addition to an exegesis on truth and civil liberty, "The Dark Knight Rises" is also a consideration of wealth, power and social equality, and the historically fine line between socialist revolution and fascism.

    Along the way, we also meet a wily jewel thief who sometimes dresses as a cat (Anne Hathaway), a young police officer who grew up in an orphanage (Joseph Gordon-Levitt), a businesswoman trying to develop a means of sustainable global energy (Marion Cotillard) and a gaggle of imprisoned men lurking at the bottom of a seemingly inescapable well.

    Whereas the previous installment seemed grounded in a more recognizable reality than any comic-book picture ever made, this one takes a turn toward the uber-geeky and reintroduces the League of Shadows, the vigilante gang led by Ra's al-Ghul, from 2005's "Batman Begins." (Liam Neeson turns up, albeit briefly, to reprise the role.)

    Exhausted yet? You will be after nearly three hours of this. The problem isn't the ambition on display, but that Nolan keeps piling on layers of meaning and portent. Alliances keep shifting, and there are double- and triple-crosses, until it all starts to mean nothing - and the movie begins to collapse under the weight of its own pomposity.

    Unlike "The Dark Knight," this third installment in Nolan's Batman franchise is curiously lacking in truly whopping action set pieces.

    There's a gripping airplane hijacking sequence early on, and the bombing of a football stadium is very well-executed. But despite the incessant Hans Zimmer music, nothing here achieves the operatic grandeur of the opening bank robbery or the bombing of Gotham City Hospital in the last picture. As enjoyable as both Hardy and Hathaway are to watch, there are also no villains that can begin to approximate the unnerving depths of the late Heath Ledger's Joker.

    The best thing to be said for "The Dark Knight Rises" is Nolan's deft visual imagination, the way Gotham once again approximates elements of New York and Chicago but ultimately seems to exist in its own gorgeous alternate universe. And in two scenes, Michael Caine, back again as long-suffering butler Alfred, brings an unexpected tenderness and bald emotion to a previously cold-to-the-touch franchise. A little more heart - and a lot less bombast - and this movie might have been the game-changer its creators so desperately want it to be.

    THE DARK KNIGHT RISES

    2 out of 5 stars

    Director: Christopher Nolan

    Cast: Christian Bale, Tom Hardy, Anne Hathaway

    Rated: PG-13 (action violence, sensuality, strong language)

    Running time: 164 min.
    http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/1...ses-sinks.html

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    Verdict: Spectacular - but overlong and often incomprehensible

    Director Christopher Nolan has done an intelligent job, along with his brother Jonathan, of assembling a blockbuster finale that makes an emotionally satisfying conclusion to the trilogy of Batman films he has directed.
    The final half-hour is cleverly written and on a spectacular scale. You may have seen an American city trashed, but never quite like this.
    The picture also has the courage to grapple, however superficially, with two big themes – the fear of terrorism and economic collapse.

    The bad guy, Bane (Tom Hardy), is like a French revolutionary of the 18th century, hoping to unite the oppressed masses against the capitalists, police and authorities who have kept them under control for so long. A 'people's court' dispenses death sentences to anyone deemed reactionary. That's me done for, then.
    I wouldn't claim the film is a political heavyweight, but there are echoes of Dickens' big novels about rioting masses and political anarchy, Barnaby Rudge and A Tale Of Two Cities, whose famous ending is even quoted at the end.
    Unfortunately, the political agenda of the bad guys is muddled, to say the least, and it's hard to know if they have genuine sympathy for the masses, as Bane and his allies seem quite willing to ruin their football games and blow them all to Kingdom Come. Is it because the masses are sinful and corrupt? Or is it because they voted in anti-crime legislation that cleaned up the city? I feel we had a right to know, and the movie certainly won't tell you. It's too busy moving on to the next big action set-piece

    The other bad news is that the experience lasts two hours and 45 minutes, which is astonishingly bloated – and unforgivable in a film that spends a long, ponderous hour getting started, despite a couple of well-staged action sequences.
    When Bruce Wayne, alias Batman (Christian Bale) eventually rides to the rescue, he comes as a man misunderstood by the public and authorities alike – he's still blamed for the death of former crime-fighter Harvey Dent, architect of the Dent Act, the piece of miracle legislation that has rendered Gotham City virtually crime-free for eight years.
    As Batman has long been retired in disgrace, and is apparently crippled physically and emotionally, it requires a major suspension of disbelief to understand why the bad guys bother to employ cat burglar Selina Kyle (Anne Hathaway) to frame him for an attack on the New York Stock Exchange and ruin him financially with a number of disastrous investments.

    The effect is, of course, counter-productive. It puts the fight back into Wayne – much to the concern of his trio of father figures: butler Alfred (Michael Caine), chief of police Jim Gordon (Gary Oldman) and technical genius Lucius Fox (Morgan Freeman). Batman's only able-bodied ally is a fresh-faced cop (Joseph Gordon-Levitt) who pretty much resembles his former chum Robin.
    The job of being love interest/ femme fatale is split between Marion Cotillard, in a grievously underwritten role as an amorous member of Wayne's management board, and Hathaway's Selina, who appears for most of the movie to be a lesbian but whose girlfriend accomplice (played by Juno Temple) simply disappears, leaving Selina the chance to change personality overnight. I guess superheroes can do that kind of thing to a girl.
    Other events requiring a suspension of intelligence include the moment when Bane doesn't kill Batman when he has the opportunity. Those of a sceptical nature may also ask how it is, in the last 45 minutes, that Batman has a habit of turning up unerringly in the apposite place in the nick of time, when for the previous two hours he has been unable to do anything right. Mind you, it's just as well he does, because otherwise the picture might never end.

    Another fault is that Bane is a boring villain. Heath Ledger's Joker in The Dark Knight was creepily memorable. Bane is just Darth Vader in a Hannibal Lecter mask, and his words are practically inaudible. For the first time in a blockbuster this year, an over-enthusiastic effects track, poor diction (not only by Hardy) and what sounds like hundreds of crazed Japanese taiko drummers make large stretches of dialogue incomprehensible. And in case you think I'm going deaf, my 21-year-old son sitting beside me found the dialogue equally difficult to hear.
    Just when you think things can't get any worse, Tom Conti turns up after one and a half hours and starts relating a back story in an accent that might as well be in Serbo-Croat. As with all recent Batman films, the tone is humourless, bordering on reverential. There are even self-consciously mythic echoes of Jesus coming to save humanity, and it's a tribute to Bale's acting that he endows the role with agonised sincerity, even when asking us to believe in the wildly incredible.
    Anyone who can't see enough big, loud movies that don't make sense can safely disregard this review. But the first of the trilogy, Batman Begins (which received 8/10 from me), remains the creative high point, partly because it didn't overreach itself and try to cram in too many arch-villains. The Dark Knight Rises is not as repellently sadistic as its immediate predecessor, but it has pretensions vastly beyond its capabilities, the villains are ridiculous with tactics and agendas that don't make sense, and the bombastic special effects drown out the narrative.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...-make-out.html

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    Just how much column space ought one dedicate to an "underwear on the outside" type film without committing crimes against credibility? Those reviews are basically hipster psychobabble.... by idiots for idiots.

    It's a goddamn lowest-common-denominator Hollywood comic book franchise... stop reading so much into it! Get a life!

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    The movies are well done RoyBatty...

    Bought tix for tonight

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    I liked Danger Diabolik better

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    everything in the film was understandable, if someone couldn't understand the scenes in batman and is a film critic they are not much of an expert eh?

    I'd say directing wise it was a 5 out of 5,

    but some of the concepts are really scary and it is a very depressing movie, but it is solid well directed and good plot, I'd say the villain is very scary (bain) and his view on society can be matched with people on these here forums, however they take it to an extreme in the movie since its a comic book film.

    I really wont watch it again because it makes me sad to watch it, really sad story

    (well directed though)

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    There's something sinister about the Batman phenomenon. I went to a movie theater early today, to see a different movie actually, but lots of guys showed up early for Batman. I remember thinking that I could envision any one of them as being a shooter-type.

    It shows how much the times changed. The last time a kids movie inspired this much devotion, it was Star Wars, and those movies were happy and bouyant. The dark knight, on the other hand, is about any angry, screwed-up vigilante who perceives society as being corrupt, and goes around punishing those he doesn't like. What does it say that young Western men identify with this character en masse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curtis24 View Post
    There's something sinister about the Batman phenomenon. I went to a movie theater early today, to see a different movie actually, but lots of guys showed up early for Batman. I remember thinking that I could envision any one of them as being a shooter-type.

    It shows how much the times changed. The last time a kids movie inspired this much devotion, it was Star Wars, and those movies were happy and bouyant. The dark knight, on the other hand, is about any angry, screwed-up vigilante who perceives society as being corrupt, and goes around punishing those he doesn't like. What does it say that young Western men identify with this character en masse?
    I don't think its for kids at all and the shit that bayne talks about, while to an idiot critic is not understandable, to someone who studies society and concepts everything he said you can point to real people who have his exact beliefs, people could be inspired negatively by this film for many reasons

    it also colors americans in a very negative light

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    The whole world has gone Hollywood. So much for diversity

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    Gonna see it at the premiere 25fth here in Sweden. Giving it 5 stars beforehand

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