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    Quote Originally Posted by Tannis View Post



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    Would never guessed him as Persian. Looks more Assyrid-EastMed-Arabid. I bet he is a Southern Iranian (Fars, Yazd) since these seem to have some input from Iraqi Mediterranean type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tannis View Post
    Also the eye shape. Lebanese tend to have an eyeshape that is also common in other Semites.
    That as well, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demhat View Post
    Would never guessed him as Persian. Looks more Assyrid-EastMed-Arabid. I bet he is a Southern Iranian (Fars, Yazd) since these seem to have some input from Iraqi Mediterranean type.
    Well I didn't use any Taylshis, Gilakis, Azeris, Mazanderanis, Kurds, Baluchis, etc. So only ethnic Persians (which as you know mainly inhabit southern areas which are much different in climate.)

    I disagree though. He doesn't look Assyrian or Arab despite his darker complexion. His look as actually very common for southern Iran. More so than the other guy you posted before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tannis View Post
    Well I didn't use any Taylshis, Gilakis, Azeris, Mazanderanis, Kurds, Baluchis, etc. So only ethnic Persians (which as you know mainly inhabit southern areas which are much different in climate.)
    Most Persians live in Central, North, South/Southwest Iran. While Kurds and Baloch indeed have their own national identity and feeling, the Mazandaranis, Gilakis, most Azeris and Talysh feel Iranian and most even tend to think Persian=Iranian and often consider themselves simply as Persian from my knowledge.


    I disagree though. He doesn't look Assyrian or Arab despite his darker complexion. His look as actually very common for southern Iran. More so than the other guy you posted before.

    To be honest his look might be found in South Iran yet it is more typical for Jordan imo.

    South iranians tend to look more like this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demhat View Post
    Most Persians live in Central, North, South/Southwest Iran. While Kurds indeed have their own national identity and feeling, the Mazandaranis, Gilakis, most Azeris and Talysh feel Iranian and most even tend to think Persian=Iranian and often consider themselves simply as Persian from my knowledge.





    To be honest his look might be found in South Iran yet it is more typical for Jordan imo.

    South iranians tend to look more like this

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    There is some overlap between Levants and Iranians, so I wouldn't be surprised if he could pass in both places. You're right, he may not be the most common face in southern Iran, but he is fairly typical. No one would question him there because he doesn't look super Arabid or anything. Beyond his dark pigmentation you can tell that his facial morphology is different than arabs, he is much larger headed and more robust. But obviously for the sake of the game, I chose the Persians that still overlap more with Arabs to make it harder.

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    Great examples of Lebanese in this thread. If Lebanese and Iranians have an overlap it's of course from the time of the Persian empire. I've met some christian Lebanese even who had some features like their eyebrows that seemed Persian (which is similar to the eyebrows seen painted on the Ancient Egyptians for example)
    example of typical Lebanese eyebrows (which can be found in Spaniards and s.Italians):




    Persian eyebrow shapes:




    there is something about the Persian eyebrows are they are wider or longer while Lebs eyebrows are more sharp and angled and more short in length ... In conclusion I've seen Lebanese with this seemingly Persian influence so i do not doubt there is some overlapping with certain families.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tannis View Post

    Also the eye shape. Lebanese tend to have an eyeshape that is also common in other Semites.
    Hehe, thats how I usually go about telling them apart
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    I would put you mostly in the Atlantid/Nordomediterranid category with SLIGHT Dinarid influences.
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    Atlantid/Nordo-Mediterranid generally, although I would say more on the Mediterranid side, and there does seem to be some additional Dinaro-Alpinoid influences.

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    When I guess, I usually look and think "Can this person pass as south Italian? If so I'll guess Lebanese" but it hasn't worked for me so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by accepthetruth View Post

    there is something about the Persian eyebrows are they are wider or longer while Lebs eyebrows are more sharp and angled and more short in length ... In conclusion I've seen Lebanese with this seemingly Persian influence so i do not doubt there is some overlapping with certain families.
    Good point that is actually what I once mentioned in a discussion with Ashina. Persians preferred always straight/angled and long eyebrows.


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    It used to be tradition for an Iranian woman to paint her eyebrows like this but this tradition has gone away in modern times.






    Now this is more the style:




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